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Begs the question: where? i cant remember but you can see it in some of the photos in R& I or Climbing which she is in every issue so it shouldnt be too hard to spot we were hoping for a little more chest beating / tall tails dru

yup, it's great to see a new batch of flamers and sprayers. judging by what we've gotten in the past i'd say we're looking at more of the same only now we're deeper in it. here's to "cc.com - the next generation"

the last few posts are the funniest shit i've read on this site all week. yes, i think i know some of you out there are married.

baah bahh baaahh. baa bahh, baaahh baah bahhhh. baaahh bahh bah. bah.

does anyone remember "the lathe of heaven"? this guy's dreams keep changing reality. i never figured out what the title was supposed to mean.

reminds me of the islamic crescent moon perhaps it's a sign from allah.

in trask's library:

i was warned about the consequences of leaving skin edges exposed when folding shaped skins, but have found the dangers to be greatly exagerated. sure you get the occasional pine needle, candy wrapper, or stuck on there but it's easy enough to pull off. my current skins have about two years on 'em and they still stick fine at the edges. i've lost a lot more glue at the center of the skins from it coming off onto the ski bases. ymmv.

Why don't you compromise and get the Diamir? the extra weight to get the 12 din doesn't concern me. it's not about weight, i have a lighter setup for that. it's about reliability.

hey does anyone want to give jessica lynch a big hand for having the guts to come out and expose some of the army's lies and shameless media spin? i seem to recall a thread a little while back how she didn't deserve the medal she got so let's give the kid some credit for something. THREE CHEERS FOR JESSICA!!! too bad she's one of the few people in the department of defence will to speak the truth (although i guess she's out now.) jeez.

i am also on the fence about which bindings to mount on my new mira's for use with my lazers. i have a pair of lighter skis with tourlight techs that i'm happy with. i have had some rare pre-release issues with the tourlights - mostly related i think to the tip and tail of the ski flexing down which lengthens the distance between the toe piece and the heel piece resulting in the pins popping out in the heel (hard to describe but see wildsnow.com). it has mostly happened to me while trying to jump turn in deep wet heavy snow. the new "comfort" binding from dynafit combines the more reliable toe piece from the tourlights with the longer heel pins of the tristep, which would reduce this problem but not eliminate it. what i really want for my heavier set-up is a bomber don't wanna pre-release above a crevasse binding. it doesn't seem likely that the tips would flex down skiing something icy but it still gives me something to be a little concerned about. i'm leaning towards freerides for their apparent bomberness, but i secretly wonder if that's just the perception. i guess i'll try the freerides and make my own conclusion...

honey can you get me a beer while you're up

flash thought unrelated (mostly) to this thread! i dropped the bottom half of an android leash (from my cobra) in a crevasse over the summer. i figure i have to buy a whole new android now. BUT, can i save money by buying the lower part only since that's all you put on the viper? anybody seen 'em for sale on the web or in seattle? edit: nevermind i just answered my own question of BD's site. i save 2 fucking bucks by buying the android viper over the full viper. YOU BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i really think we need to spray about the time space continuum

Add the venerable slide projector to the list of vanishing 20th century artifacts. Kodak will cease production of its slide projectors and accessories in June 2004, according to a mid-July email sent to institutional users by Kodak account manager Glenn Price. The "pre-disclosure" was intended to give government agencies, (and by extension, arts institutions, and schools and universities) plenty of time to prepare – either by accelerating their slide-scanning programs, or by stocking up on projectors and parts while they are still available. but still i will never forget film. those luxurious liquid colors, the sensitivity, the warmth. i'll tell my pixilated grandchildren about it and they won't know what i'm talking about.

sorry for the repost if this has already been posted it's just from cnn and i haven't been pouring over ever bit of spray today. kind of an obvious choice for them i suppose given their position but i wouldn't really know cause i don't use linux myself but i'm sure it's the shizzy. BUT MY REAL QUESTION IS: so americans and arabs and jews kill each other over stupid shit because we come from different cultures and don't understand each other and can't really change. IN THE FUTURE WILL PEOPLE GO TO WAR (kill each other) BECAUSE THEY ARE USING DIFFERENT OPERATING SYSTEMS AND THEIR SOFTWARE ISN'T COMPATIBLE? HUH?!?!?!?! maybe this is in the distant future, maybe the not so distant. but really, whataya think? is that what we're headed for?

shaped skins

i love you all

it could be a scandinavian tradition even!

my recollection of this (historically, not being there) was that before wwII hitler wanted to send all his jews to england to get rid of them. england said no. many of these jews were poor and uneducated so they wouold have been an imigration problem for the UK, or maybe they just didn't want them. anyway, after the holocost some fingers were pointed at the UK for their refusal, so they partly covered their asses by creating isreal. they were also killing two birds with one stone because they knew they couldn't hold on to their empire but they kept a little bit of it if they put some 'friendlies' there.

Does that mean a boat with oars is aid too? yes. erden has to either paddle with his hands or use his boat like a kick board with no swim fins allowed. Sails are aid. Skis are aid. Ice tools are aid. Snowshoes are aid. Bicycles are aid. A warm jacket is aid. Oars are aid. A gps is aid. A boat is aid. WTF? Where do you draw the line? Personally I think Erden is nuts to do this trip in a row boat. I know the oceans are way more unforgiving than any mountain on this planet. I also would encourage him to use a sail boat for his ocean voyages even if there was no motor in it for emergencies. I would be no less impressed for him doing this voyage using a sailboat. Shackleton used one, Tilman used one and they are legends. If he dies in a rowboat what will we say then? "What a nut" or "at least he died what he loved doing?" Erden has loved ones and he needs to consider that in his choices of crossing oceans. The odds are stacked against him. That is a reality and nobody wants to say it. Well I said it. I just don't want to see him become another statistic on that memorial. Erden, please use a sailboat! dude, i was like, only joking, ok? erden kicks ass and we all know that. so actually, yes, if i was him i'd go for the sailboat. i think sails would still accomplish what he is basically aiming for. we use snow, gravity etc. using the wind still fits the bill.

Does that mean a boat with oars is aid too? yes. erden has to either paddle with his hands or use his boat like a kick board with no swim fins allowed.

i don't know who most of you are but i'd have to say you all basically suck.

sails are aid. this was discussed a long time ago.

in the ny times today : In Die-Hard City, G.I.'s Are Enemy By DEXTER FILKINS Published: November 4, 2003 ALLUJA, Iraq, Nov. 3 — In the epicenter of anti-American hatred, even the most generous of gestures is viewed with a suspicious eye. The day after 16 American servicemen died when their helicopter was shot out of the sky here, a group of American soldiers tossed handfuls of candy from their Humvees to the Iraqi children who lined the road. "Don't touch it, don't touch it!" the Iraqi children squealed. "It's poison from the Americans. It will kill you." The Humvees rumbled past, and the candy stayed in the dirt. Loathing for the American occupiers looms everywhere in this hardscrabble city, where Saddam Hussein won strong support in exchange for privileges and patronage. Hatred laces the conversations. It hangs from the walls. It burns in the minds of children. As nowhere else in Iraq, Falluja bristles with a desire to confront the American soldiers, to kill them and to celebrate when they fall. Although large number of Iraqis elsewhere are cooperating with the Americans, for the soldiers trying to pacify this Hussein stronghold, the road seems long and hard. "These people hate the Americans," said Specialist Emily Donaghy, who lives behind high walls on an American base outside town. "It's going to take generation after generation before these people realize what America has done for them." On Monday, American soldiers picked over the scene of the sharpest demonstration yet of the locals' passion: the shooting down, with a surface-to-air missile, of an American helicopter loaded with soldiers. The downing of the helicopter, which crashed and burned in a field outside of town, prompted celebrations from many local residents. While anti-American feeling does not extend to everyone in Falluja — G.I.'s have found a handful of allies — it is difficult to find anyone here willing to express appreciation for the American presence. The strong feelings were evident here early on when American soldiers killed 18 anti-American protesters during a clash in April. Even a group of American-trained Iraqi police officers, who American officials hope will help crack down on the insurgents, could not bring themselves to say anything positive about the occupation. "We want them out of here," said an Iraqi officer who gave only one name, Ahmed. He said he and his colleagues were threatened by local Iraqis for collaborating with the Americans, but he said his detractors had it all wrong. "I don't work with the Americans; I don't take orders from them," Mr. Ahmed said. "I am doing this for my country." Falluja lies in the heart of what is known as the Sunni Triangle, an area stretching west and north of Baghdad that was the foundation of support for Mr. Hussein. It is this area where most attacks on American soldiers have been carried out. They began in the spring and have continued since. On Monday, a bomb near Tikrit, Mr. Hussein's hometown 100 miles north of here, killed another American soldier, Reuters quoted the United States military as saying. In other parts of the country, in the north and in the south, Iraqis often welcome the Americans as their liberators and as their tutors in fostering democratic rule. . In places like Falluja, people often had a direct stake in Mr. Hussein's rule, receiving preferential treatment in hiring and larger salaries. One of the lucky ones was Saad Hamid, who operates a sidewalk tea stand in downtown Falluja. Before the war, he said, he worked in an Iraqi arms factory, earning almost $1,000 a month, an extraordinarily high salary here. Then the Americans arrived, the arms factory was closed, and Mr. Hamid lost his job. Now he pours tea for pennies a glass, and he nurtures his resentments. Mr. Hamid remains a faithful follower of the deposed Iraqi leader. To illustrate, he held up two pieces of Iraqi currency for an American visitor, the old Iraqi note, with the visage of Mr. Hussein, and the new one issued since the Americans took over, which contains no such figure. "The old currency is better," he said, pointing to the face of Mr. Hussein, "because Saddam is on it." A day after the downing of the helicopter, a company of American soldiers stood guard over the site as a huge crane lifted the wreckage from the ground and loaded it into trucks. Officers said Monday that many of those killed and wounded on the helicopter were from the Third Armored Cavalry Regiment, based in Fort Carson, Colo. "We are gathering up all the pieces," Capt. Scott Kirkpatrick said. Pentagon officials said Monday that the American military had counted about 20 attacks on allied aircraft by similar surface-to-air missiles since June. Pentagon and military officials said preliminary reports indicated that two missiles had been fired. It appears that the attackers fired twice so that if the first missile missed, the flight path of the second could be adjusted to compensate, a Pentagon official said. Just down the road from the site of the crash, a crowd of young men and boys gathered to watch. Some carried small pieces of the helicopter they had picked up since the crash. One man in the crowd was Khalid Abdullah Jassem. Like the others, he exulted over the crash of the American helicopter, yet at least one of the reasons he gave for his feelings seemed misplaced. Whenever the Chinook helicopters flew overhead, Mr. Jassem said, the American soldier stationed at the back of the helicopter always hung his feet out of the back door. Showing the bottoms of one's shoes, in a person's home, for example, is a sign of disrespect in the Muslim world. Informed that American soldiers manning the gun at the rear of Chinook helicopters usually sat the same way regardless of the country they were in and meant no offense, Mr. Jassem shook his head. "I didn't like Saddam, but he was better than the Americans," he said. For all the intensity of the fighting here, the Americans show no signs of turning back. Over the weekend, the downtown office of Falluja's American-backed mayor was attacked eight times, often in daylight. The mayor was beaten up, and the American liaison office was destroyed. Capt. Ryan Huston, who spent two sleepless nights defending the police station, seemed hardly bothered by the attacks. "They are trying to take over this town and turn it into a stronghold," Captain Huston said. "And we are not going to let them do it." so basically when saddam left power these people lost out. of course they hate the u.s. now. is it really about religion? i don't think so, i think it's about money and power as usual. relax trask, the rules of the world haven't changed, you've just started believing some of the hype. i'm not saying the dumb motherfucker who decides to be a human bomb doesn't believe that hype a thousand times more than you do, i'm just saying it still boils down to money and power, and then all the fucked up shit people will believe if it makes them feel better about their pathetic lives.