Terminal_Gravity

quote: Originally posted by Lambone: Whats your take? Which is more important, breathability, weight, stuffability, waterproofness??? I want to use the coat for everything, summer trips paired with a suffer bag to ice climbing belays. IMHO, I think you are asking a single piece of gear to do to much. And therefore will be making too many compromises. As attitude pointed out, a down jacket will probably be to warm in temp's where liquid water is falling anyway. Although, it may be perfect for a "suffer bag" with a shell over it. You won't be perspiring much in that senario anyway. For sub freezing climbs I think a laminate (even dryloft) or microfiber is overkill, especially with down insulation. If your moving, you will be getting wetter from the inside out than the outside in. Because niether will breath much once a frost layer forms on the outside. I think the best solution is somthing like Patagonia's encapsule fibers. I have had very good luck with them staying breathable in sub freezing temps and they repel enough water in light rain or freezing mist. If I expect miday temps above freezing and bad weather on an otherwise cold climb (the worst case senario for dry cloths) I throw in a very lightweight shell in addition to a parka. This affords me the ability to mix & match accordingly. Sorry I don't have a magic bullit, but I hope this helps.

Tex, did you find a partner? If not, are you interested in a November attempt. I will be in PDX on the 14th and could spend the 15th through the 18th giving it a go. Waddaya think? BTW, I like your spelling better. [ 10-18-2002, 08:39 AM: Message edited by: Terminal Gravity ]

B-rock & JK are graciously dealing with the Keg. Somebody still has to scare up a tap. It is standard Sankey and readily availible. B-rock will be putting his name on the OLCC permit, which is required in Oregon. I have no idea what WA laws are for dealing with keg parties. My best advice is just say that it is homebrew if johnny law shows up with an attitude. In 99% of the cases there is no issue unless a bunch of minors are puking or planning to drive home. I am happy to do this, it's really very easy for me...I just wish I was going to be there. Cheers! and have a good rope-up - TG PS: I am glad mattp voiced his concern. I thank that it needed to be stated. That being said, I expect that you can strike the balance between having a great time and not attracting so much attention that somebody gets busted. Thanks B-rock & JK

quote: Originally posted by Matt Anderson: Errrr. . . What's a rip runner? I assumed a yates "screamer" or other load limiting sling.

Erik, I missed the fact that you have the Ti's when I first read your response. Have you had any of the same problems yours? Maybe they have improved since my leki's

quote: Originally posted by erik: check out the leki ti poles.... i have them and they are nice and light...not sure how light though....i only measure in grams for one thing... I've looked at them, I think they are about 375g; not bad at all but 7-9oz translates to 200-250. Maybe I'm dreaming. The problem I have with leki is the crimp that holds the little expansion device can wear and fail. It may be different on the Ti than it is on the alloy though...dunno. I also have scraped the shit out of my shin once when a pole loosened up. Which leki will do if you get some twist of the lower shaft when it catches between rocks. I can imagine a suprise pole retraction could cause a serious fall if you were on the edge. So I don't think my next poles will be leki's. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Interesting info, thanks.

Does anyone know of any super light weight trekking poles? Like 7-9oz for the pair. Frankly, I think that that three sections are ridiculous. I would be willing to trade the hassel & weight of a two section pole and live with a single section pole if it was really light & stiff. A short ski pole maybe. Any suggestions?

What's up? There are no mountains in Amsterdam. I'll be climbing ice on Orizaba and drinking mescal.

GW, it looks like you were instrumental in my title elevation...And I like it. Free The Beer! I have never thought that beer should be imprisoned.

quote: Originally posted by shredmaximus: TG were you the guys with that top rope anchored around the top of that pointy overhanging serac in the middle of the icefall? It was probably around 2:00pm. That looked like some pretty cool stuff you were climbing if it was. Yup, we were those fat boys. It was cool shit indeed, wandering around in the maze of cravasses, bouldering, leading, top-roping, setting V-threads, stemming, turning corners. It is a veritable ice playground in there. The seracs are completely stable but the ice was pretty friable and dinner plated pretty badly. Which was good practice too. It did green up a little during the day.

Well, whose going to acctually pick up the stout? PM me or call 541.426.0158

quote: Originally posted by shredmaximus: Were there like tons of people there or what? Sat. was mobed. That place is almost as popular as Smith this time of year! Wdietsch & I were there on Sat. as well. I think we were the first ones on the Elliot. We climbed into the cravasse/serac band on the north side of the lower ice fall. We climbed all day long. I found out how woefully inadiquate I am on overhanging ice. We never saw a single person all day long (unless we poked our heads up at the top of a serac). We had so much fun that I couldn't believe every one wasn't doing it. Complete solitude & ice until our arms cried. Sketchfest is right about the lack of coverage on the upper slopes. Sunshine looks good to go though. [ 10-16-2002, 03:57 PM: Message edited by: Terminal Gravity ]

Waddaya think?

Dubious indeed. Maybe I'll just get to 499 and never log on again.

quote: Originally posted by Lambone: Any of you guys know much about the Three Rivers Dam to be built in China? I read a really cool thing in a geology journal awhile back. Apparrently, it has been theorized that a new large ( and heavy ) body of water forces the earths crust to eventually adjust. If I remember right, the azwan dam on the nile didn't have many faults under it when it was built and now there are more and they appear to be growing. The 3 rivers will be, by far, the largest man made lake to be built. I would expect that the earth will personally see to its quick removal via massive earth quakes. Of course that is "quick" by geologic time standards.

Am I correct in assuming that I am just a few short posts away from losing my cronic gumby status?

B-rock & Shred, Where exactly were you guys?

How many of you have acctually been to Hetch Hetchy. I found it creepy & weird to walk across the dam(n) and imagine the submerged wonder. I think that it gets less than one percent of the Yosimite visitors. Re-establishing the Hetch Hetchy would mitigate the sicking crowds of the valley. The face of the dam itself needs a bolt ladder, one with really long holes. Hetch Hetchy now, Glen Canyon tomarrow and then we can start on the Columbia lake system.

Maybe the snafflehounds we all know and love is the larval stage of these monsters. I bet after the hounds reach a certain age they migrate to Alaska, cocoon up in a glacier and sprout wings. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.

My distributor is about a 1/4 mile from Produce row. Let me know who'll pick it up & I'll call you with directions and PM contact info. Also, it seemed like at first Stout was the flavor of choice but somebody needs to make a decision on that or IPA. Let me know. [ 10-16-2002, 09:23 AM: Message edited by: Terminal Gravity ]

Scetchfest, PM me your phone # & I'll give you details. The warehouse is in the southeast produce area under the morrison bridge.

Thanks for the response, mattp. I'll post a TR when I give it a go.

I'm not worthy. Besides, I thought the rumor was that Beckey never bought the beer. Enjoy your drive. I have always wanted to install a keg/tap in my rig. Run freon from the AC around it to keep it cool. As far as I'm concerned as soon as you un-tap, it's no longer an open container. Thats the way our local DA sees it! Lawgoddess, Winter...Waddya think?

Congratulations, JK. Now you can climb all day and let Muffy pay the rent.