Terminal_Gravity

This is certainly a sensitive subject. I apologize in advance if I am pushing a point on a subject that carries to much pain and emotion. What was the rope??? IMO, this is the single most critical question that needs to be answered to help explain the accident. I have to say that it should have been answered by now. It can't be as difficult of a question as any of the others. If anyone can lay this question to rest, please do so. Thanks - TG

Come on people; do it. Let the others know when you have sent a note to the forest circus by saying so on this thread. Thanks

quote: Originally posted by iain: I have a meeting at 7pm on Thurs but might stop by after. Is that an AA meeting you have? Those things always make me feel like going out for a couple of drinks.

Rose & Raindrip...532 SE Grand...238-6996 I'll buy the first pitcher of Fest...that and a shot of Maker's (and a half rack of oysters) should be just about be enough for me. Sorry, Wdietsch; didn't mean to make you look like a dick (your words, not mine). I bet the R&R has that crazy Yakama beer of your youth.

How 'bout The Rose & Raindrop? They have my IPA, ESG and my personal favorite the Festivale. Plenty of room, not to much smoke and should be easy to get to for the westsiders but is still in SE.

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quote: Originally posted by Winter: If TG comes do we get free IPA from Pro Row?! Come on DFA ... or are you really just trask? Sorry Winter, No free IPA at Pro Row. But for every Pint you buy I get 17 cents toward buying myself a new set of ice tools! I'll be there...

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This is a truly important issue. Hyalite is arguably the best ice climbing area in the lower 48. It is imperative that it stay open. Please help the climbers of the area keep their local area open and help secure the the future of your ability to climb there. It is absolutely worth the effort. Thanks in advance - TG [ 11-18-2002, 08:46 AM: Message edited by: Terminal Gravity ]

Thread Drift. I'm down for the 21st if any one is into it.

Thanks, all of you, for the kudos. (god, I hate that yuppie word) Thank you very much rbw1966 for letting me know about Jonathon Nicholes artical. I had missed it and I owe you. Maybe I'll be your belay bitch for a FA of this 250 foot WI5/6 that is forming up out here (as a token of my appreciation ). DFA ... at the risk of being a shameless self promoter; below is a partial list of where you can find my beer. Corvalis Lucky Noodle Sixth St Grill Tryon Creek Grill Clark's Liberator Brewing Co. Hawk Creek Cafe Big River Retaurant Bombs Awy Cafe Fox and Firkin McMenamin's, Corvallis Squirrels Suds n Suds Eugene Cornucopia17th St Market Good Times Highlands Jo Fed's Pizza Research Institute Rennies's Landing Ring Of Fire Sam Bond's Garage Taylors Wetlands WOW Hall Portland Angelo's Ash Street Saloon Aztec Willie's Bella Faccia Pizzaria Belmont's Inn Beulahland Bitter End Bugatti's Pizzaria Campbell Productions Caprail's Bistro & Wine Claudia's County Cork Public House Dublin Pub & Restaurant Good Foot Lounge Hanigan Tavern Heathman Hotel & Restaurant Horse Brass Pub Iron Horse Restaurant John's Market Katie O'Briens Kelly's Olympian M. Bar Mickey Finn's-Sunnyside Micky Finn's Woodstock Murray's Pizza Old Chicago-Tanasborne Old Chicago-Gresham Old Chicago-82nd Old Lair Hill Market Old Market Pub & Brewery Paddy's Bar & Grill Paragon Restaurant Port Halling Produce Row Pub At The End Of The Universe Rouge Ales Public House Rose and Raindrop Shanny's Tavern Snake & Weasel Springwater Grill Three Square Grill Whatever Lounge The Horse Brass & Rose and Raindrop have a few different handles. Squirrels sells the most and Buelahland has been our most loyal account. Cheers - TG (steve) [ 11-15-2002, 01:10 PM: Message edited by: Terminal Gravity ]

quote: Originally posted by Dru: Have you noticed on the front page the title of this thread is "Kayak, Paddle And Spray" Fitting, Huh?

Nice post, Wallstein! I can relate. I summited Aconcaugua (effectively solo) around the same time you were down there but I feel that the trip was close to a total failure. Admitedly fun but a mountaineering failure. Willstrickland & I bailed off the N face of hood later that year pretty high up because of percieved slab avy danger. In retrospect I think the conditions were reasonable but we climbed well together and made a decision that was prudent at the time. I feel that the trip (if not the summit) was a success. I have one different attitude. I never try to defeat a mountain or a wall. They are my friends, my best partner. It is the mountain that I partner with to fight against gravity (and gravities buddy the weather). After all, Mountains fight gravity and weather all the time. They are the best at it. I try to be humble and learn from the mountains, their inherent and almost timeless strength against gravity. Cheers - steve

Hey Jarred, I'm not sure why you had trouble. I get PM's all the time; one last night. I updated my profile just in case something got screwey. So try again. I do greatly prefer PM's to E-mail. Or you could call me at 541-426-0158 or even better, give me your # & i'll call you. As I write this, we are getting a major Chinook blowing through which is probably going to fuck up all the young ice. As far as your ? on climbing availability out here...yes to all of the above. The Wallowas have everything but glaciers & altitude. Later-steve

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quote: Originally posted by wdietsch: quote:Originally posted by Terminal Gravity: Sierra Trading Post has Rambos & Light Machines for just over 3 a pair. TG my friend ... don't tell me you're thinking about retiring the Hummingbirds , say it isn't so ... I still owe you some pic's from the Elliot last month, been swamped Don't worry Wes, I am not giving up my trusty 'birds for the first pretty tools that walk past my screen. But I have to admit the writing is on the wall, it's bound to happen sooner or later. I climbed enough frozen mud last Sunday that I think I am going to have to file off yet another tooth. Cheers -

I climbed locally last weekend and could definately use a partner ( or 2 ) this weekend. I found a couple of lines that are in but I can't garuntee that they will stay for the winter if we get a warm spell. I'm sure of a 2 pitch w/about 40 feet of solid fat vertical column toward the top that will be great this weekend. Around the corner is a more tenious cascade of curtains, some of which don't quite make the ground yet. It is probably WI6 or M5 about 3 pitches and almost certainly un-climbed....way way to hard for me to solo. Well; are you going to PM me or are you all talk?

Sierra Trading Post has Rambos & Light Machines for just over 3 a pair.

quote: Originally posted by Jarred Jackman: I'd like to have the boat package. I'm 6'4" and you said it's optimal for folks up to 5'11" would I be uncomfortable in it? Let me know what you think then I'll let you know if I still want it. I think it's a great deal, it's just, I'm still trying to save for Denali! take care Jarred The guy I bought it from was over 6 feet; so it might fit. But I can't make any garuntees. It may depend on how fat your ass is. Come over to Enterprise and try it on. I'll atleast buy you a beer (or five). Bring your ice tools... And if it means saving for Denali, for you Jarred, I'll work out payments.

quote: Originally posted by MtnBoy: can you please email me a picture of the boat to SpenceB@earthlink.net Thanks Spencer Sorry Spencer, I don't have a digital camera, the software to download from a friends, or a current picture of it. My scanner is a pain to use and I don't want to spend the hour plus to send you a photo. The price is to cheap for me to screw with all that. It's an old plastic boat. It's orange and pointy at both ends. No leaks and it is sound. I used it about 3 times a year for about 6 years and had a lot of fun. It is a good boat for that type of boating but if you want to be a star boater you will want a different boat. If you are almost sure you want it, let me know. It is less hassele for me to throw it in the back of my truck and meet you in PDX next time I'm coming out than to send a photo. (if you are just kicking tires don't take my time, please) Or you can call me for more questions. 541-426-0150 (steve)

Thanks all. Don't get me wrong; I don't have an un-healthy infatuation with Münter Hitches, I just like to have as many well thought out tricks up my sleave as possible. Cheers -

Imagine what they could have done with GU & Goretex! Their eatin nuts & berries...they auta be more careful...their settin a bad example.

quote: Originally posted by Lambone: Term, I ussualy use two seperate munters on one big biner. Seems to work fine, and the ropes act independently. Anyone suggets otherwise? Mattp says above 2 ropes in the same knot. I assume that means the ropes run parrallel through the 'biner. I have tried this at home at it seems to work fine unless I have to pull one rope for a ways by itself if the other isn't tensioned. Lammie, are you suggesting that you tie two separate hitches? I would have never thunk that. Does it work? do they each flip independantly. I think that with a dilegent belayer any of these systems is safe. I am more concerned with ease of use and the avoidance of a cluster fuck. thanks - tg

Does anybody have any sage input or experience on the use of 2 ropes & Münter hitches for belay? If a climber is not making a gumby mistake, like the knot won't flip 'cause the biner is not big enough, is there any reason not to use the two ropes through a pear 'biner....or is it better to use them though separate biners? It strikes me that with a twin set-up 2 biners would be better but with halfs a single would be better. Any comments (or spray)?

quote: Originally posted by freeclimb9: quote:Originally posted by Terminal Gravity: Price reduced to $119.99 !!! That's a screaming price for boat, paddle, and skirt. But it's not exactly boating season. Can't you wait till Spring for the garage sale? I can't wait untill spring to buy some new ice gear.