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Wow. There are rules? Do they hand these out in 2nd grade? Don't stand next to another boy in the bathroom. Don't take a dump if someone else is in the bathroom. Make sure if you fart in class you make a joke about barking dogs. There must be other lists of rules, like 2 guys can't sit next to eachother in the movie theater. Must be at least one seat between them. You guys crack me up. And trask, naw...you'd like it too much.

I always prefer the urinal. That 'lil cake smells sooo good. Whatchya afraid of trask? You might like it.

So does this mean no Tuesday night pub club? Guess I'll have to wait until next week...

I listened to this song on my new Micheal Franti/Spearhead CD and the words were exactly what I needed to hear today. Thought I'd share... Never Too Late Don't fear your best friend Because a best friend, would never try to do ya wrong And don't fear your worst friends Because a worst friend's just a best friend, that's done ya wrong Don't fear the nighttime 'Cause the monsters know you're divine Don't fear the sunshine 'Cause everything is better, in summertime And it's never too late, to start the day over Never too late to pick up the phone It's never too late to lay your head down on my shoulders Never too late to come on home Don't fear the water 'Cause you can swim, inside you within your skin Don't fear your father 'Cause a father's just a boy, without a friend Don't fear to walk slow Don't be a horse race, be a marathon Don't fear the long road 'Cause on the long road, you gotta long time to sing a simple song And it's never too late, to start the day over Never too late to pick up the phone It's never too late to lay your head down on my shoulders Never too late to come on home Don't fear your teacher 'Cause if you listen, you can hear music in a school bell Don't fear your preacher If he can't find heaven, in a prison cell Don't fear your own self Payin' money, to justify your worth Don't fear your family Because you chose them, a long time before your birth And it's never too late, to start the day over Never too late to pick up the phone It's never too late to lay your head down on my shoulders Never too late to come on home Hold to your children Hold to your children Hold to your children Let 'em know

Having an asthma attack on the 11th pitch of Royal Arches because of the stupid forest service burning in the valley and shifting winds. Finished the climb with my patient partner and once we got out of the smoke things calmed down and I could breath again.

Dru - as far as I know Tim Treasdale studied the same group of grizzlies in the same few areas each season. He was studying them over the longterm. He knew most of the bears and some of them knew him and were used to his presence. If you get a chance to check out any of his video programs on the subject I think you might be impressed with what he was trying to do. The uncertainty of how a wild animal might behave adds complexity to the risk assessment, but I think you are splitting hairs on whether he could understand his risks as well as a climber dealing with the risks of soloing on a long hard exposed route. I still think it is unfortunate that people and bears died, and sad that some people think he was dumb and deserved it. But I guess that is what makes the world a diverse place, huh?

Hi Rob. Bummer about the shoulder. I tweaked mine earlier this spring. I had the same troubles as you with manteling and arm-baring. Two of my rotator cuff muscles were involved and then the PT my doc prescribed was too aggressive and further tweaked a couple more muscles. I could hardly move my shoulder and was really bummed about missing out on the climbing season. What I learned is that soft tissue injuries cause immediate weakening of the muscle/tendon and the scarring that takes place during healing can also limit mobility, elasticity and function of the tissue. You need to take some time off and get some combination of therapy/rehab. Here's what worked for me. After about 6 weeks of PT and actually feeling worse, I decided to get some massage work on the shoulder by someone I knew was an expert in working with injuries. She did work to breakdown scar tissue, calm the spasming of the larger muscles that were working to stabilize the rotator cuff (and causing a lot of pain) and also did some lymph drainage to help with the inflammation (I don't like taking anti-inflammatory drugs). I continued to see my PT and told him I thought he was being too aggressive with the strengthening, so we focused on stretching to increase joint mobility and range of motion. I also saw the massage therapist once a week for 5 weeks. In my view the massage and stretching along with rest from strengthening got me to a point where everthing calmed down and I could work out and climb again. It was a long process and I am not back to full strength/endurance yet, but that takes time. Hope you feel better.

I guess I didn't read that far. I already knew who the guy was from his name and just read the description of what happened. Yes, he played with fire and ended up getting burned. I think the two situations are completely different, although both are sad. He wasn't slathered in blood or sitting on a pile of salmon he was trying to keep from a hungy bear. From what I observed in his programs he took precautions but understood the risks he faced since he refused to carry a gun because he thought it was in conflict his fight against poachers and against the law. In the last show I saw I recall he made a comment about how he felt he needed to protect himself more from poachers than from the bears. He'd been out there doing research for 14 years. Obviously he wasn't stupid, the odds of an incident simply caught up with him. Being callous about the loss of life just seems wrong to me. Both you and Cracked were doing just that in a pretty cavalier way. I hope if either of you or someone you care about die in an unfortunate way, that none of us calls you/them stupid and says youthey deserved it. That would show little humanity, no compassion, and no respect for who either of you are.

Hmm. I thought you recently argued in another thread on the subject that ratings really don't matter and especially the soft ones in Canada...

Dunno. I don't feel sympathy for stupid people. This guy got what he was asking for. Props to the bear! well, it's not the project grizzly guy, and i don't think its the same desensitizer guy because he was an actual academic funded researcher, not some recovering drug addict. i wish i could remember what book it was! then again a wild animal is never truly predictable, just look at Roy Horn Gosh Paul and Dru. That's a pretty shitty attitude about the lives of a photograhper/researcher and his girlfriend. I haven't heard that Tim was a drug addict and if he was and has recovered to become a productive member of society by photographing and defending the habitat of a beautiful and powerful animal then good for him. He put himself in danger for his passion and unfortunately the bears won. I can't believe you guys feel good about yourselves with such callous attitudes. Grow up and get a conscience!

Sounds like health, youth, strength, and attitude are all on your buddy's side. I'll send my positive thoughts his way. I hope his recovery is swift and complete.

Wow! That is such a bummer. This guy was really cool. I had seen a couple of his programs on bears, either on Discovery or PBS. His focus was educating the public through information and study of the bears, and to defend their habitat from development and poachers. What a loss.

A guy can't even enjoy a cold beer anymore without having to consider the political ramifications he's indirectly supporting? What is the world coming too? sheesh! How about Schmidt? Is that stuff still NW brewed? Lucky? Oly? Henry's? What's a guy with an obsession for cheap beer to drink while maintaining a firm moral stand? Your best bet is Henry's; which is now being brewed on contract by Full Sail brewing company. The mind boggles. And Full Sail is employee owned. Another bonus.

Cracked - not if cynicism is used as a way to avoid or limit some of life's experiences because you're too jaded to step up to the plate. If you don't have enough optimism to put yourself out there (in any arena not just relationships) you may miss out on some great experiences and life lessons.

Watching and hearing the glacier calving on JBerg is one of my favorite passtimes in the Boston Basin area. Other than climbing loose blocky ridges of course. Cavey - can we post video on this site?

So do you let your back up plan partners know they're the back up so they don't consider you a flake if your original plans don't fall through?

I think that article is bs and the author is an angry cynic. If any of that was 1/2 true it would be so depressing...

I posted a few photos in the gallery. Enjoy!

The weekend was awesome! It was great to see people I hadn't seen in awhile and to meet some more of the faces behind the computer screen. My arms feel like lead weights today after 3 fun days of cragging. Thanks to all my top rope heroes who let me climb fun cracks in the lower gorge. You are super plab.

This is where you lose me. Got any links to articles/info?

Sounds like potential data mining to me. While 3000 males aged 25-59 might be representative, I fear their approach leaves a lot of people who struggle out of the analysis. "We restrict our analysis to male household heads in their prime earnings years (age 25-59). This group has been the focus of much previous research on the distribution of earnings, due in large part to its high degree of labor force participation. We include men who worked approximately full time for the entire year (at least 1,750 hours), so that our analysis focuses directly on the trends in rewards to market work and is relatively unaffected by cyclical variation in job availability. "

There's some interesting items on this site too.

JayB - I don't follow your points. There is an increasing amount of evidence about what has gone into their thinking/policy making and more people have come forward with statements about what the admin knew prior to the attacks. How can you just dismiss this as some crazy conspiracy theory? Yes, it is unthinkable that our government would actually sit back and do nothing about the hijackings, but they didn't even follow FAA policy to immediately scramble fighter jets. Why? Also, Bush's comments about "casualties of war" makes me inclined to believe he could actually rationize 9/11 events as necessary means to his end.

Or could it have been the story of Arnold admitting he behaved badly. Or the one about how Spector suggested that Ashcroft should recuse himself from the investigation on the leak about the CIA agent. Or the one about Moussaoui and how the administration is working the trial rules to get the charges dismissed so they can try the guy in the super secret military courts. Lots of great news on that page.

A UK MP's views/analysis on whether there really is a war on terrorism and US motivation.