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Cavey - East Ridge of Forbidden is a sweet climb. How much snow is left on the approach to the gendarme?

Not from this past weekend, but here's a photo to get us all psyched about this weekend at the Smiffy plabfest!

That is a sweet pitch, but I like the chimney thrutch above it a little better. Call me crazy...

I didn't see it that way at all. He was stating that there is a defense company nearby and that they build bombs that are dropped on countries we fear. I think it was more of a comment on violence in our culture than it was using the defense industry as a scapegoat. He brought up a lot of "alternatives" as to why the shooting happened. It is a complex issue and bigger than what most people blamed it on, the music they listened to... He also noted pretty early on that the same morning that the shootings took place was the same day that the US (under Clinton) droped the highest number of bombs on Kosovo. Possibly that's one of the reasons that he brought the defense industry into it.

Bingo Kurt! Beck's been caught spraying on the climbers board again...

Don't worry Incubus, I don't get spoon fed information by any source. But the movie did make me think and start doing some of my own research on policies and politicians. I thought the overall premise that Fear is one thing in our culture that makes us different and may drive the difference in murder rates and violence compared to other first world countries. His comparision of our US culture vs. Canada on the topic was pretty interesting.

Now that's something you and I both support!

Ahhh! Thanks Greg. I needed that. It's been 10 days since my last granite experience.

Have you seen Bowling for Columbine and Michael Moore's discussion of our country's culture of fear? Pretty interesting POV. Yes Greg, I know he has been criticised for stretching some of the facts on the NRA, but on the whole it made me think about how many people base their decisions on fear.

Last I checked the election is next fall and the Democratic party candidate will not be determined until early summer. How can it be over for any one of the candidates. A lot can happen between now and then, and now is the time for voters to do their homework and decide who best represents their personal views. Personally I haven't made a decision. I liked what Dean said in his speech yesterday and thought I'd post it. Not everyone on this board is a conservative who supports the Right Wing POV. Greg - our tax dollars are put into the federal treasury to fund government spending. If you look into Dean's history as Governor of Vermont I think you will find he is fiscally conservative for a Democrat. He is in support of government spending. Money has to be spent to keep the machine running, however the things he proposes spending money on will have far more benefit to me and what I value than how Bush spends my tax contributions. And semantically you are correct about the country's forefathers and the type of government they founded. We are a republic which is why we have representatives in Washington DC who make decisions on our behalf...and why the general popular vote was ignored in the last presidential election!

Not Sure I understand what you're referencing. His views sound pretty reasonable to me.

Bush and his cronies must go!

What was killing me was that I was passing and if I had sped up I would've hit the car in front of me. The most obnoxious guy was about 2 feet from my bumper too. It's crazy out there. Be careful. Not looking forward to the I-5 drive on Fri...

Gee, Dru. If you present some slides and show us all about your grand adventures then it will be worth it.

I agree with much of what you've said here sloth, but where does it end? On my trip down to CA I was on the 2-lane part of I-5 outside Sacramento, passing trucks who are legally required to go 55mph. The speed limit for cars is 70mph. I am driving about 76 and passing. On 3 occasions I had drivers who want to go 85+ come up behind me and go agro when I didn't merge into the semi to get out of their way? What is a girl supposed to do? On one occasion someone merged out right in front of me just before I started passing a truck, then didn't go fast enough to pass the truck before the lane ended and the f'er behind the truck wasn't going to let me in. It seems people drive badly everywhere these days. I think they're all too self absorbed. Wake up people! You are not the only ones on the road!

Get 9/16" with two or three rows of stitching. I think it's stronger than the wider stuff with only one row of stitching down the middle.

I am convinced that the majority of really bad/rude drivers on the eastside are former Californians that had to move north because they just weren't competitive enough with all the dumbfucks down here that don't know how to drive, love to use their horns at the first fraction of a second that the lights change, and have to get at least two road rage incidents under their belt before they finish their first cup of coffee. Other than driving on the roads periodically, I am having a nice visit to the land of sunshine and really screwed up politics.

Rest, ice, and massage to break down the scar tissue and get the muscle working again.

Considering what I paid for it and the fact it's in excellent condition Klenke's suggestion of $50 seems pretty unreasonable. I was willing to let it go for what I consider reasonable if someone is willing to pay that price or something near there great. If not then I'll just keep it. Zeiss does make nice lenses. Used to have a point&shoot with one that took nice pics.

I guess that makes the debate that much more complex then.

Check this one out. more thoughts on Bush

The Postman was kinda a typical hollywood Costner suck fest, but I thought the concept was interesting. What would happen if something catastrophy happened that cut us off from other cities and traveling the roads was dangerous? Don't have an answer...

Bolting cracks is wrong in my view. Even at crags. Some alpine climbers in the PNW may think that crags are just a training ground, but some of us view cragging as real climbing in itself. I suspect that alpinists who use crags to train aren't the perpetrators here. More likely they are people who are either new to the sport and don't understand the trad ethic or are just dumb f*cks who don't care.

I've always thought humans arrogantly underestimate animals.

Cavey - mine is still for sale. Same price as last time. $500 for the Cannon EOS Rebel camera body and two Tamron lenses (28-80mm & 100-300mm zoom). All in great working condition. Send me a pm.