Guys, it's all moot. I bought the gamma Lt. It's schoeller dynamic with no fleece. I like to layer, so this fucker is perfect. I own a bunch of Arc'teryx shit and really like the one-of-a-kind quality, fit & attention to detail, not to mention it's made in B.C., our 51st. state. I don't really give a shit if it costs more. You only go around once and you get what you pay for.