Cpt.Caveman

Just bring the slideshows on. Generator kegs and godo times. I make no mistake I am not in the planning but some of those comments make some people feel alienated.

AlpineK I dont see any dictacting. Discuss your thoughts more detailed..

Beck, I dont know about backing up or not being behind it myself. I think there is plenty of room out there and if you dont want to see OR or their reps then make another fire and tell your bedtime climbing stories. Not that you wouldnt be welcome I am sure. Most reps for gear companies are pretty laid back that I know. This buddy of mine is a gear rep for **** and you'd be surprised he's pretty low key. If OR wants to serve beer all I have to say is how many fuckin kegs?

Just tell them gear reps to charge 50 cents and to raffle some gear off. I can bring my own booze but if it is supplied the better. Established trails in the icicle are needed in some areas. Or maybe improvement to some to eliminate or control erosion.

I think any gay parenthood is not the right thing. If it was meant to be then the parents could breed one. I think I stated this several times. Making comments about "loving and caring" doesnt mean shit since those defninitions are often stretched.

First of all how do you know they were not roomates kids or tahat all 4 of them were not living with me for the entire time. You dont. Second of all I dont think 2 parents is better than one in many cases. I can love a 2 year old - but that doesnt qualify me to be a parent.

Apparently this isn't such a big deal... Just read an article about inbreeding in the latest issuue of Discover" magazine. IF it was up to some of these folks you could marry your mother and father and then collect benes from work. BTW rumor is that if you work at a certain REI that it is rampant with gay workers and them GAY workers discriminate against married heterosexual folks. Now lets open that can of worms hehe.

You ask questoins but bring nothing for argument with those lines of comment. I have lived with 4 kids over the past 8 years. Making an argument about kids finding other ways to respond back is just a bullshit sideways off the subject matter.

I know several gay couples rasing kids and in every instance the child is getting much better parenting then plenty of "traditional" families I know. Being gay is = to being a criminal in the eyes of god to me. To justify it any other way as morally correct or normal is full of shit. Let them get married. If gay people want rights give them 80% off the price of vaseline and then get lost. How normal and better do you really know? Are you doing research that is unbiased? Do you follow these children on their every day life? Here I'll answer for you -NO

Get ridiculed at school, secretly and maybe not so secretly discriminated against. Another set of factors a child should not have to deal with.

Pee-Rock All you can say is hate hate hate. Your full of it. It's all plain and simple- IF I dont believe in it then I dont believe I should have to pay for it. You can argue until you're blue in the face. To sit there and snidely call me a hater is fucking retarded. Arguments about kids growing up in a stable environment with gay people is wrong. Kids should not have to grow up that way.

I believe Ray gets our "Bigot of the Day" award. Allison get's the cunt of the millenium award

First of all I dont believe gay people should be adopting. I think it's morally fucked and if it was intended they would not be the same sex. Homo bashing- Well just because I think homosexual people are not all there in the head to raise children or should be entitled to everything doesnt mean I am bashing necessarily. Some of you people that defend homosexuals alway use the same defense that we are bashing hate mongers. That's not very original and a pretty weak argument too.

E-rock you're plain out full of shit. Just because I dont agree with your morals and everybody else's doesnt mean I am a hate monger. That's a pretty pathetic way to argue that everyone else should be swarmed by your beliefs. I dont believe in the goverment money going in any way shape or form to gay marriage couples or any way they try to benefit from it. I dont have to pay for something that I dont believe is not right. Gay marriages.

Yes all of those are in the list. Fuck you too. My vote counts and they dont qualify for any of that in my eyes. I'll be sure to piss on your drunk ass when we meet. Toodleoo

Obviously you have not thought about it much... I dont really care if Jimmy and Gerry cornhole or get married but I dont believe they should have all the same rights as any other couple. Specifically a few. I dont know about Bush and his motives but I think the PC bandwagon of the Clinton era is on the out. Good riddens because PC is often just a bunch of bull.

I dont support gay marriages and them "couples" having kids. I dont have to air out why and where here. If you choose to call me a bigot I dont really give a fuck. I'll see your red headed dirty ass again some day and we'll see what you have to say then. Gay people don't breed.

I can booze it up if it's close enough for me to ride my bicycle. Cant be anywhere until around 6:30 ish. I'm not into climbing at marymoore rather take my dog there so he can sniff other dogs butts.

Darrington is faster and more scenic.

I dont imagine anyone could fall out of Klahanie Trad Krack. I would have to say it's a go too. Shady and with water nearby make it a good one to do in the middle of the day heat cycle. One of those climbs you could do over and over again. Sally five fingers is good as well as Cat Crack.

One time I was at Squire Rock or whatever they call that darn thing in tacoma area. Anyway this dude proclaimed he was a freesoloist even though I didnt ask. Shortly afterwards I watched him deck out into the pebbles. He left right away with a limp.

knee wrecker chimney

Cant find zamberlan calanques on their site or at MEC.

That's pretty easy to do. You can walk up there the afternoon before and take a look from the Memorial Site with a set of binoculars or even the naked eye. Have fun jumping. I am guessing best bet is down the East Face? I can't see the ghetto arrow due to so small of an image.

Sounds like a cool adventure. The bullshitters can fuck off. Would like to see the slides some time but you'll not catch me in church