Cpt.Caveman

quote: Originally posted by quikclimber: ive been climbing sport for way to long. i realley want to get into trad climbing without killing myself. any reccomendations? Come climb with me. I am getting into it too. Or - Buy some stoppers, hexes and cams to 3 inch. Go scare yourself on some easy beginner routes like GNS - Index or Icicle Buttress R&D route Lworth, or Midway - Castle Rock Lworth

I climb V420 with a malt liquor in one hand. I can also fire up 5.2 dirt in the mountains well <---Superflail geak is here! Look at those glasses it looks just like me! [This message has been edited by Cpt.Caveman (edited 10-09-2001).]

In reference to what Lucky said there is some good thoughts he has there.. I think that there are other examples of poor bolting at Little Si. Just go look at "You get what you deserve" 5.10b OW. A fwe more cracks to the left of that too... I am not trying to make a chop list. More like list poor examples of drilling. [This message has been edited by Cpt.Caveman (edited 10-09-2001).]

quote: Originally posted by tim: whats the weahter report from msft heh, couldn't resist! dood I just had to take a slasher, which for me means pissing on the trees out back, its feggin cold Rain and light showers = aid climbing at Index or french free some crax in the tumwater

Gorilla My Dreams - Index Did they bolt this cuz they thought a fall on this would result in a cut rope? It was bolted on the outside of the crack so I figured this was the excuse.... [This message has been edited by Cpt.Caveman (edited 10-08-2001).]

Good for the freshies! If you are looking for pure humor this winter look for me I will be attempting my 1st season - well sort of - of winter skiing (when ice is not an option!). Looking for partners too I dont want to die in avalanche. Beck what up man! BONSAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [This message has been edited by Cpt.Caveman (edited 10-08-2001).]

Bastards!!!!

quote: Originally posted by LUCKY: Well I see the Blackbelt Internet Spraymasters stayed at home this weekend to work on there 1000 word essay on how there climbing style is the only acceptable one.You don't get extra credit for SPRAY.Contact your doctor those sticks might have to be surgically removed. Hi Ya! Ninja Master is here!

Drul I thought you might like the extra flavor of one of those urinal cookies?!

Maybe you can install a spring loaded bumper on the top of you helmet. That way you just bounce back! Then I would suggest snorkeling down the Wenatchee River at a high rate of speed!

I am good at that get drunk part

quote: Originally posted by Dru: yeah nic, but if you have 2 daisy chains, a lead rope, and a fifi hook all tied into the front loop/tie in area of your harness, sure is nice to have a separate loop on the back for the haul line to keep the clutter under some type of order. Nic is a freak Dru. What makes you think he aid climbs at all? Is a fifi some kind of sex toy?

quote: Originally posted by Dru: so holly, you are saying if i want to do the Gandhi I better not leave half a glass in the fridge overnight? You can fill up your cup in the urinal at the local gas station sick boy

quote: Originally posted by Dru: there are better uses for alcohol than burning in a stove... Jager down the chute into the gut!

Just what I want to climb! A series of piss smelled cracks! Yipee!

Oh yeah and to Philibuster boy

There aint no Genie in that Bottle!

quote: Originally posted by Dru: You gonna have some kids Beck? what about the 'species barrier'? A BeckeyRuxpin climbing bum!

quote: Originally posted by Beck: My mistake on the decades, it was only twenty years ago so that makes it the eighties, right? (My, how time flies...) I suspect these are the same two climbers, they found this tube sock sling above the Mazama Glacier on ridge, my beta's a bit second hand as I'm just a SAR lunkhead..."How high do I need to jump, sir?" The sherriff's office organized a search earlier this summer as well, don't remember the names of the missing, one of the fellas there was on the original search, he thought the prevailing winds would have pushed them in the direction of the Mazama Glace, as we all know, you get pushed away from your intended direction when the winds are howlin' and the spindrift feels like needles. Philfort might know more about the specifics, he was up on the August search as well. Hey Beck, I think that is a pretty cool group to be a part of. Even if it is like "how high do I need to jump sir" sort of thing.

quote: Originally posted by Dru: They already have that seminar.It's called a Mountaineers Climbing Class I wanted to say that but well you know someone would obviously start a flame war with me

quote: Originally posted by Rodchester: South Arete on EWS. Easy and fun route. learn to simul-climb too. This route has 2 5th class sections that I recall. Very short Very easily done in boots. Just be ready for the crowds.

Jesus freaks!? What the (*&*( Don't you hate it when someone takes you too serious. Hehheheh. Did you get a message from Peter Puget Puny Peter

Dane, All I know is that when I am at my limit on a crack I feel a little bit more nervous. Stuffing pro in the crack can take more time than using a draw on the bolt. Sometimes you have to fiddle with pro to set it right. It really sucks when you have tried to put in the wrong piece. Fumble Fumble Fumble some more until you find the right one. Cracks can also be more painful to climb and require some different techniques sometimes. Not always straightforward pull on tiny hold in front of you. Don't forget you have to carry more weight to climb up those cracks too. I think a crack rack is a little heavier than a rack of draws. Often you may be subject to more exposure when you crack climb because they may be multi pitch. Scarier = hold on tighter At least sometimes for me. As Bronco noted in the other thread he likes the idea of training for the mountains. That is the way I see it too. There are not too many bolts on the North Ridge of Stuart last time I was up there... So yes I think the sport has evolved into a new stage for sure. I don't mind it really. If you want to clip bolts as I do sometimes good for you. If not a greater adventure awaits you if you choose to do it. I do think that sport climbing is good training for strength etc. that can be transferred to cracks. Hey Bronco you going to Index tomorrow or what? [This message has been edited by Cpt.Caveman (edited 10-05-2001).]

quote: Originally posted by LUCKY: I know a climber that can swap leads on Astroman with his girlfriend ,climb 5.13 sport ,solo sick waterfall ice,and sends sick highball boulder problems, he does'nt brag he does'nt slander he is a CLIMBER the rest of you are just Blackbelt Internet Spraymasters . [This message has been edited by LUCKY (edited 10-04-2001).] You so right Lucky! It so fun though hehehehhe

quote: Originally posted by Peter Puget: Just seems like sport climbers here get called all sorts of names. Bolters get slammed and yet nobody has any clear idea of what they are talking about. And most responses are logically inane and contradictory. I would like just one person slamming sport climbing or bolting to write their reasoning in an honest attempt at being cogent and logical. Retro won't even respond to my questions shown above. and yet takes it upon himself to be a rock policeman. Its all a show. I have done Swim and except for the one pitch needing pro I'd say yep it be a sport route. This year I have also removed about ten bolts from the rock that I felt were inappropriately placed. I didn't smash hangers, insult clases of peoples or brag online but I did talk to the guys who placed them. Good for you. Ask Retro what he thinks not what I think he thinks.