Cpt.Caveman

[ 10-09-2002, 08:30 AM: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ]

That hike is not super scenic, really. I wouldn't just hike in there for a mere day romp but hey it's your time not mine. Might be better to just add 30 minutes one way and go up to snow lakes. Better scenery there. It's about 2 hours or even less depending on how fast you move and how many breaks you take. [ 10-09-2002, 07:54 AM: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ]

Fair enough Paul. Issue solved

Back to the top. THis is the best thread of the day. Fern what do you define as road Would you take a 2wd low clearance Toyo on that

I dont know what the laws are but either way I wouldn't just take the guys compiled photos and information without consent. If someone knows the guys friends or family maybe they can contact them. As far as download etc yeah climbers usually dont mind. Some people get upset if you don't ask though...

quote: Originally posted by Dru: It is only stealing if you don't attribute. If you copy the info and note your source you are just Referencing. For instance if Smoot noted that 98% of his route info comes from Beckey, Burdo, Kramar etc. then he'd still be a copycat but at least a legit one. It'd be simple for me to do but I wouldn't go there without approval from someone in his family or a climbing friend....

attitude, That's a good idea. But who do you contact in order to take the info without stealing is the real question. His wife or family I suppose. I never knew the guy.. Just archiving it without asking is sort of stealing in a way.

quote: Originally posted by daisy: I used to be Drew Brayshaw before my sex change. tee hee. Dru you are one sick boy

I am Karsten Duncan

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: quote:Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Well why dont you buy a site and host it yourself since you think it's ok without asking. Why don't you try communicating without being an asshole for once? Is that possible for you? It's a fine example that your solution is not as simple or morally correct for most people. I can't help it if you make comments like that. It just opens you up to more spray. You seem to know everything so I just feed on it. So, no, I guess it's not possible. You'll get over it some day.

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: quote:Originally posted by jkrueger: Just because something is on the Internet, it doesn't mean that it is free for the taking. Images, words, and ideas are still copyrighted and trademarked, even though the law has been slow to keep up with the pace of the Internet. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should... ... Seems like in this instance, though, the idea is to preserve some valuable information in a non-sneaky kind of way in order to keep it available, which sounds like the original intent. 'Tis a far cry from copying the info, crediting yourself with it, and selling it or something. Well why dont you buy a site and host it yourself since you think it's ok without asking.

He's talking about Mt Temple on Temple Ridge. Which is marked as the Temple on maps but Beckey calls it Mt Temple. Here is a thread. http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000135 [ 10-08-2002, 02:28 PM: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ]

arg col I can't make it. Something has come up

I am surprised you didn't mention Septic Death

quote: Originally posted by salbrecher: I'm considering Approaching from the George Parks highway From a "town" called Peters Creek west of Talkeetna and then ski up the Kahiltna. Anybody done it or know anyone who has done it. I wouldn't mind some route info. Anybody know anyone near Ancorage who I could pay to drive me up the 14 miles of plowed road and snowmobile gear and team the remainder 35 miles to Peters creek? We call those snowmobiles aid climbing. The only valid ascents are made from sea level

Yeah camp at your car or climb it in a day cuz that place is ugly to camp at

Snoboy you are now a celebrity. Can we still drink brews together

quote: Originally posted by Dru: I have got out the heat gun and am trying to put extra bends in my carbon fibre shafts so I can go leashless this year - cause we all know LEASHEZ ARE AID!!! Yeah just bend em up like this Leashes are for wimps [ 10-08-2002, 10:34 AM: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ]

Right on Lamster, I guess I could have ditched the word useless. However it really is not good to belay off the anchors if they are way low from what I have found. There has been a time when that was my only option to get anchors low down. Then I tried it and it did not perform. The bad part about finding out that way is that it's too late to take your partner off belay you just have to deal with it for that pitch. [ 10-08-2002, 10:26 AM: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ]

Who knows but I am ready to climb some heinously steep WI2 routes [ 10-08-2002, 10:11 AM: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ]

Hey Dru are you racing to the Rockies in order to climb the Replicant

I am a dj so I dont rap. Walk into the sani-can opposite me and listen to my farts make a melody

Well I think m&m is pretty crappy. He just talks and can't even rap. At least someone like Ice Cube has rapping skills. He's just some white dude with issues and the media eats it up. Anyone can just talk shit into a microphone. I guess people will buy any trash these days.

quote: Originally posted by slothrop: quote:Originally posted by salbrecher: Strap on crampons eh..... hows "ice climbing"in those? Hmm, well, it was ice, and I was climbing it. Or did you mean to ask another question? I've never had a crampon come off or work loose. The climb in the photo was only three pitches of low-angle ice (55 degrees?), but I had no trouble. Perhaps you'd like to send me a pair of Rambocomps so I can do some "real" "ice climbing". Contact me for my shipping address.

Right on Col. (saluting) Less rope to manage could be deemed as quicker too.