Cpt.Caveman

Celtic Bayou is the name of the place.

It's an idea and I know exaclty the one you are talking about. Lemme find the name oi

You go there. Hold your breath and we'll be arriving shortly after

Dan Larson SUX! Hehe I know he'll read this now! Are you going to show Dan or what? How about Scot'terrydactylitis or this TimL dude? [ 10-09-2002, 10:17 AM: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ]

I take it back-- Everyone should go straight up Toketie Creek drainage. Great trail!

Don't hold your breath but I do know some of the dudes here climb on the East Coast... But there's better ice close by

NW Brewhouse sucks butt Let's hear some ideas and I will get some in the next few days. I found new watering holes that are way better.

quote: Originally posted by Highlander: Snow Creek, you can do it in running shoes even in early season, no crampons or axes needed. Duh what he said if you are going to climb Prusik.

I didn't forget the guy but he seems to be in a mole hole sometimes. Let's strongarm it and feed egos etc so we can have it over here

Lisa we should just have it on this side again Jens, Rodeo, Greg W, Juan, CascadeClimber, Col Von Spankmeister and others should all show though.

It never does. Just take skis then

Granite- Is there any other rock? I thought the rest was junk

[ 10-09-2002, 08:30 AM: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ]

That hike is not super scenic, really. I wouldn't just hike in there for a mere day romp but hey it's your time not mine. Might be better to just add 30 minutes one way and go up to snow lakes. Better scenery there. It's about 2 hours or even less depending on how fast you move and how many breaks you take. [ 10-09-2002, 07:54 AM: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ]

Fair enough Paul. Issue solved

Back to the top. THis is the best thread of the day. Fern what do you define as road Would you take a 2wd low clearance Toyo on that

I dont know what the laws are but either way I wouldn't just take the guys compiled photos and information without consent. If someone knows the guys friends or family maybe they can contact them. As far as download etc yeah climbers usually dont mind. Some people get upset if you don't ask though...

quote: Originally posted by Dru: It is only stealing if you don't attribute. If you copy the info and note your source you are just Referencing. For instance if Smoot noted that 98% of his route info comes from Beckey, Burdo, Kramar etc. then he'd still be a copycat but at least a legit one. It'd be simple for me to do but I wouldn't go there without approval from someone in his family or a climbing friend....

attitude, That's a good idea. But who do you contact in order to take the info without stealing is the real question. His wife or family I suppose. I never knew the guy.. Just archiving it without asking is sort of stealing in a way.

quote: Originally posted by daisy: I used to be Drew Brayshaw before my sex change. tee hee. Dru you are one sick boy

I am Karsten Duncan

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: quote:Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Well why dont you buy a site and host it yourself since you think it's ok without asking. Why don't you try communicating without being an asshole for once? Is that possible for you? It's a fine example that your solution is not as simple or morally correct for most people. I can't help it if you make comments like that. It just opens you up to more spray. You seem to know everything so I just feed on it. So, no, I guess it's not possible. You'll get over it some day.

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: quote:Originally posted by jkrueger: Just because something is on the Internet, it doesn't mean that it is free for the taking. Images, words, and ideas are still copyrighted and trademarked, even though the law has been slow to keep up with the pace of the Internet. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should... ... Seems like in this instance, though, the idea is to preserve some valuable information in a non-sneaky kind of way in order to keep it available, which sounds like the original intent. 'Tis a far cry from copying the info, crediting yourself with it, and selling it or something. Well why dont you buy a site and host it yourself since you think it's ok without asking.

He's talking about Mt Temple on Temple Ridge. Which is marked as the Temple on maps but Beckey calls it Mt Temple. Here is a thread. http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000135 [ 10-08-2002, 02:28 PM: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ]

arg col I can't make it. Something has come up