Peter_Puget

The weather looks so-so here on the westside so save your energy for the Rope-up and instead of climbing search for hidden/lost/unknown crags! Next week instead of the cool mountain pictures lets post our crag discovery pictures! Bonus points if you can belay from a car bumper. PP

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The wall left of the ski area at Alpental. What about the caves over in the eastside basalt? They are huge

Been there! But not in years. Rock is really grainy if I remember correctly.

I am going to go attempt Northern Lights. Time to brush up on my aid climbing

Do those who can’t get away to the love-fest have any plans this weekend?

Hmmmm.....

I think the FDW has the best quality slab rock in Washington. Except for the .10b that is really harder than everything else, I thought that the routes weren't very runout. The 10b was significantly more runout than the other routes even with TCU's. Leading it w/o TCUs must have kept you on your toes! Scary! But after you do the crux you are kinda committed I think if it was me leading I'd still be up there crying. PP

How do you like it?

YOu got me thinkin about those college days again: Book The stuff you have to read!

It's no secret that I have argued with Dwayner quite a bit on this site I think we started climbign about the same time and I remember reading old chouinard catologs as if they were the gospel. The attached link is a fun read if only to look at old stuff and prices. It also has a great article on clean climbing that is worth a read and my guess is Dwayner would endorse it too. Link

ok I lied I meant Alpine hammer link

J-b is right I used one on Bridalveil falls and hated every minute of the climb. (an old Chouinard model)

Dont have recent rack beta but I rapped and haven't talked to anyone who ever continued to the top

Great cleaning tools!

This might not count but I once got to the top of a spire and the only anchor was on old Star bolt with the lead sleeve at the end exposed. We rapped but actually down climbed so it might not count. The next worse time was rappin off a tiny nubbing in a storm and the sling blew off the nubbin while I was coiling the rope. An exapmle of complete stupidity.

report money quote: "Overall, these results indicate that upward mobility remains an attainable goal for the majority of working age individuals. The presence of mobility implies that yearly measures of earnings inequality likely overstate the permanent earnings differences between individuals."

softball to attached weights

This takes around 10 minutes to make. I got the idea from a book on Body Results site.

I thought I posted to this thread earlier. Here is a great link: Trinity Alps I believe that Scottp is really referring to the Stonehouse. Several good climbs on it and it is easy to find. Hike up the Canyon Creek Trail until you see the obvious formation with large corner. Haven’t climbed in the area for over 20 years but there is lots of climbing. On a map look for a series of lake to the NE of the Canyon Creek trial. (I wanna say June lakes?) Nice short climbs there and shorter approach. Grizzly Falls is a nice ice climb in the right conditions.

I was guessing Wild Traverse on Midnight! PP

I am not saying the routes are good. I am not even sure if we are discussing the same ones. The ones I have heard about are several years old. I even think they have been climbed in summer.

Mattp – Well F8 assumes that the routes are indiscrete and asking for trouble. Since he did not respond to my earlier post where I ask him several question - I assume he is speculating. What if the routes are four years old and just now coming to everyone’s awareness. Would we still think F8’s opinion at all realistic? What if some were 6 years old and the one with the fixed rope the only new one? In making a useful assessment I believe that such facts would be important. Many posters seem to be assuming the mixed routes in the Snoq pass area are poor routes. I have talked to some who have dry tooled some bolted routes in the area and they thought they were really fun. These guys have climbed A5 in the Valley and done difficult routes in the Rockies. Are these guys telling me stories about the routes in question? Who knows?