LUCKY

Gotta love those big holds and steep problems at the happies, that rock is the coolest on the planet, if they only made that flavor in 100 feet.

WHOOOOOO! I thought I was funny.....oophs! maybe not!!!

Wouldn’t it be nice to have a secure job? I would like to apologize to all (except rainpuss ) I have been irascible and rude and vulgar, I get a little wound up. Again Sorry. This is the first time in my life that I have been off work this long, Social Security says I have had income since I was age 13, I am now 54, I have been off work for 8 months, that’s the longest I have ever been off…...being without work tweaks a man’s mind I am back to work and much happier now! I just spray here cuz an Ironworker doesn’t have much of a chance to practice his typing and social skills and we all know from my mouth lately I have no social skills, just a construction worker's mouth and Tude. So I hope the ones I have offended will forgive me. LUCKY

Thanks to you, this topic is now in spray. Happy now???? where it belongs

So you really think this route takes away from wilderness pay to play trails in wilderness lets go climbing for a day and you can tell me all about Keith and I got to tell you it takes a lot to man up and post your name I have respect for that.

climbing is my passion ...don't phuk with my passion climbing is like crack to me but with a better ending!

Thanks Keith

nobodys going to spend 2 summers to chop the route rainpuss,you might stir up someone to chop a few of the first pitches and the climbers in the real world that actually climb have allready got the money for hardware and manpower in place to retro it.

My wife says my blood presure is going up ...my face is turning red ...

Yeah, and what's with those guys who did Girth Pillar, the Ice Cliff Couloir had already been done, without any of that whack and dangle shennanigans! According to Mike Priess, his route and IB overlap for 3 to 5 pitches, so really neither is a variation of the other, and we're talking about two different FA parties on adjacent routes. I completely understand the disappointment in having your adventure route overshadowed by an adjacent later sport route, but its not the same as having your bold line retrobolted by latecomers. Down at Smith, would you say that To Bolt Or Not To Be completely disrespects the line and style in which Sunshine Dihedral was put up? Crag vs Wilderness setting. Apples and oranges imo. At this time I would ask if you please state your real names as to add credibility to your post and also I will know who not share beta with or hook up with as a climbing partner LUCKY Curtis Gibson Tenino Washington

Ethics: from issue 56 of rock and Ice like way back Dude!! Generally an attempt by yesterdays climbers to discredit any new style of climbing they are unable to do because of LACK OF SKILL OR MOTOVATION. arguing ethics is a sure way to stay on the ground posing instead of shutting up and climbing. Ethics police: People who feel frustrated with life and sublimate a desire to be Nazis by enforcing rules that only they are clear about.

So you climb his routes than talk shit on the internet, NOW THAT PHUK'N WEAK!! Would you advocate having no standards? Unfortunately, these differences blow up into full blown fights. But the discussion needs to continue so we don't end up with shit nobody likes all over the place. I'm not shank'n myself out of beta or climbing partners how about you

Carful there young’n there is new sport climbing 20 minutes drive from OLY with a 10 minute approach walk, could be overbolted, wouldn’t want to go betaless like the rest of these crotchety old arm chair climbers do you? wait what? fossil rock? can you climb there in winter? or are the developers keeping it on the DL? as for my stance on endless bliss (at e38) the climb itself is fantastic! the stone actually is almost like velcro, but with the inflated grade (I'd say it's barely even 5.8, when it was originally rated 5.10) and myriad bolts, that fantastic slab is taken away from. compare it to west country on stately pleasure dome in toulumue. it's 5.7, but the bolts are 20+ feet apart it's really cool to get to the top of a pitch and look down and see only 5 quickdraws, as opposed to looking down a shorter pitch and seeing 15 clips, with even more bolts in between that you skipped because you don't own that many quickdraws. I have not climbed IB, but I want to this spring, my last try at it ended before it had begun, at the gated road 8 miles from the taylor river bridge at 5.30 in the morning. No not Fossil young'n carful here!!!There is getting to be as many new routes and areas in the NW as there are old but the sprayers on this topic are not going to hook you up!!!!

So you climb his routes than talk shit on the internet, NOW THAT'S PHUK'N WEAK!! Personally I get more pissed when a route setter of a sport climb puts my old ass at risk! If I want risk I will grab my rack and run it out.

Carful there young’n there is new sport climbing 20 minutes drive from OLY with a 10 minute approach walk, could be overbolted, wouldn’t want to go betaless like the rest of these crotchety old arm chair climbers do you? BTW AT the time he was ask to put up some safe slab climbs...guess you just can't please everyone

Oh the loooong winter and the poltical climate were in, temps are running high. I think we all need to chill a bit including myself, anyone know of a Breathalyzer and anger management device for my computer bring on the warm dry rock LUCKY

Thanks Offwhite

I just gave 44 dollars to the NW response Haiti relief fund through US bank Why 44 dollars in honor of our 44th President Because true Americans don’t believe in torture they believe in justice and helping those in need. Thats what we do, Karma is a wheel.

Exactly. If you participate in sport climbing, tell me how it is you can get all bent out of shape over rap anchors, when you advocate this: Where's the outrage? Back at Ya!

Here is a funny little story similar to bugs My girlfriend (now wife) are climbing at a popular sport climbing area, I lead this 10-b one of our warm ups, my girlfriend leads after me, this hot and in very good lean shape girl walks up and says to my girlfriend you looked really good on that, so when I hear it I say hey what about me, the hottie says oh yeah you looked good on it too, kinda condescendingly .Than she commences to tell my girlfriend that is her partner leading the climb next to us. She than reaches out with her index finger and taps my girlfriend on the shoulder and says PISSSSS! YOU’RE HOT! Now I thinking that’s just rude, not only is she putting the BLAST on my girlfriend right in front of me she is doing it behind her partners back that is leading a climb. In retrospect it was quite funny

Cougar sighting on Crawford Mountain When I first posted, I thought it a funny little story related to the south cascades, After some of the hilarious and interesting posts now I think it would have been more fun and appropriate in another forum, what do you think? STAY OR SPRAY?

Yeah!! About 20 silver haired cougars, meet then on the way down as I was doing my daily hike up Crawford mountain, I like to call it the Mt Si of Thurston county same distance as SI but instead of switchbacks and 3500 feet elevation gain , it’s on log’n road with 1200 feet elevation gain, it’s a 2 ½ hour burn for me and the wife, I just had to ask the leader of the cougar pack what group they were with, she said they were a group of retired women ….cool to see the old babes getting out and staying fit, and then when I was about done with the conversation with the lead cougar 2 hoties walk up looking at a topo with a puzzled look, of course I had to do the man thing and set them on the right path. So here’s the thing I have never seen a hiker doing Crawford in the 21 years I have been living across the road, so what are the odds, when I saw all the cars I thought wow everyone trying to get there deer before the season is over. Well it looks like my own private Mt Si enduro space is about to get invaded.

For a good work out I have a 38 degree wall with a exit wall to the right,I also drill real rock, some from different climbing areas for holds to save money, it also makes your hands tough, change creek x38 has the best, if you go steep go big jugs, with an 8 foot ceiling I would suggest 12 foot long 35 to 45 degree roof like wall with a exit to the right or left similar to Eric Horst HIT sysstem (Hypergravity isolation Training) ...cheap intense training