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Check out the Blog http://www.thurstontalk.com/2013/06/17/fossil-rock-yelm/ WTF I just can't let go of the crag closest to my house with an exceptional type or rock..chossil

There was no maned MOON landing, they got there and the Weyerhaeuser Gate was locked

There's an app for that! or they can just play angry birds

Correct OFFWHITE...don't mess with my spin bro , it was supposed to be opened eventually as a park after funding for improvements was obtained ...guess maybe not now! Years ago you gave a guy 1 dollar to enjoy the area, benches, potty, cliff diving. And they wonder why kids are fat and play viedo games instead of going outside

Deschutes Falls Park STATUSFunded in 1993 WWRP Applicant: Thurston County Parks & Rec WWRP Category: Local Parks WWRP Grant: $441,932 Applicant Match: $441,932 Project Type: Acquisition County: Thurston Legislative District: 2nd This project acquired a 154-acre site at the headwaters of the Deschutes River in SE Thurston County. Site features lush forests, grassy meadows, two waterfalls that plunge 15 and 35 feet, a 75-foot-deep gorge, and approximately 5,000 feet of frontage on the Deschutes River. RCO Project Number: 92-0359 A swimming hole that was used by the locals, now owned by Thurston co parks, locked behind weyerhaeuser Gates

Looks like this sign had the desired affect, there was no one in the parking lot Sunday, and it is usually full, especially now that this blog came out http://www.thurstontalk.com/2013/06/17/fossil-rock-yelm/

NEW Signage New signage Vail Weyerhaeuser area PERMIT REQUIRED FOR ALL ACCESS No trespassing private property violators will be prosecuted for trespassing under RCW 9A.52.080 or RCW 77.5.435 does not say from August till December Weyerhaeuser Offering a quality outdoor experience for wildlife enthusiasts, sportsmen, photographers, hikers, equestrians, bicyclists, or anyone looking for outdoor recreation in the Pacific Northwest. http://www.wyrecreationnw.com/ This includes DNR property, state land, private land, Fossil Rock and other climbing walls in the area, lakes, swimming holes , rivers, ect. Behind their gates!!!! read the permit system, exclusive access rights for 1 year on a lease. How long till it's locked up all year, or by the signage it already is, almost guaranteed access to Fossil will be all year do to fact it is on the 1000 road WEYERHAEUSER'S main log'n road Check out the map http://www.wyrecreationnw.com/CreateDocument/PermitMapImages/Vail_Map.pdf

All permits are sold out http://www.wyrecreationnw.com/Permits/PermitsHome.aspx http://www.wyrecreationnw.com/CreateDocument/PermitMapImages/Vail_Map.pdf

New signage Vail Weyerhaeuser area PERMIT REQUIRED FOR ALL ACCESS No trespassing private property violators will be prosecuted for trespassing under RW 9A.52.080 or RCW 77.5.435 This includes DNR property, state land, private land, Fossil Rock and other climbing walls in the area, lakes , rivers, ect. behind their gates!!!! I think this answers all questions

Not tell'n or the crowds will come

For example, the largest of the railroad land grants was to the Northern Pacific Railroad: 40 million acres in a 100-mile wide band running 2,000 miles from the Great Lakes to Puget Sound. A century later, much of this land is controlled by Weyerhaeuser, Plum Creek Timber, and other timber and mining corporations. Many community and environmental problems stem from the corporate abuse of the public land grants. From railroads & clearcuts http://www.landgrant.org/

How does Weyerhaeuser have the right to restrict access when there are all those DNR units being locked up also. link to DNR http://www.dnr.wa.gov/Pages/default.aspx link to railroads and clearcuts http://www.landgrant.org/

6/22/13 Access by permit only 8/1/2013 to 12/31/2013 sign at the second gate 1190 road to Fossil ....Nice Day, good friends, great view

Railroads and clearcuts campaign ..... Millions of acres of public land intended for homesteaders was instead given to timber, mining, and real estate corporations. The failure of the railroad land grant policy is the cause of many of today's economic, political, and environmental problems, including deforestation, toxic waste, and taxpayer subsidies. The Railroads & Clearcuts Campaign intends to hold government and corporations accountable, and to reclaim this land to the public domain. http://www.landgrant.org/

Current state laws do provide a lower tax rate for private forest land that is used for timber production. However, public access is not a requirement stated in the law as some people believe. There might be some confusion because at one time an “open space” designation did require public access and in the intent language of the bill establishing the reduced tax rate for forest land listed recreational spaces as one of the public benefits from sustainable forestry. WDFW has some concerns that eventually the practice of charging access fees by large land owners may limit the ability of some to participate in outdoor recreation and hunting in particular. Surveys have shown that declining access to hunting areas is one of the most common concerns of hunters and one of the key reasons why some are leaving the sport. Sent to me by WDFW Wildlife Program Customer Service

The signs do say access by permit only August 1st to December 31st so it could be a half year closure, or just the beginning Access to Fossil during the week has always been fragile because it is on the 1000 road, a main log'n road for Fossil

Archery DEER season September 1st to December 31st Bear season August 1st to November 15th 750 permits at $150.00 each August 1st to December 31st

http://www.weyerhaeuser.com/Businesses/RecreationalAccess/Washington If you look at the Vail map in the link you get an idea of how much land Weyerhaeuser is closing access to , state land, hunting, swim'n holes, rivers for fishing and it is look'n like this is a year round closure, why would signage be up already? The talk out in the hills is it's a year round closure, all the gates will have plywood signage of access by permit only like Fossil ,Crawford MT, Deschutes river,ECT. That is already up

So you think it's ok to lock up that much property to public access....And there is state land in those hills they are lock'n up, I can show you some of it if you want...a few years in the 80's Weyerhaeuser paid less than 0 taxes, that means they got public taxes as incentive to hire as they were lay'n off....that's how I left...It's not just about climber access it's about everyone who enjoys the outdoors

These are new signs( Access by permit ONLY ) posted all over the Vail Weyerhaeuser log'n property at the yellow gates even close to my house far away from Fossil the hunters will probably make a bigger stink than climbers could ever think about...to no avail...I live close and have had to put up with there BS climbing at Fossil for years, Access to Fossil is on there main log'n 1000 road, security guard hassles, Log'n Trucks dust'n you out think'n it's funny All good things can come to an end, Glad I enjoyed climbing the unique rock at Fossil while I could.

Weyerhaeuser Suks, you use to be able to drive to the crag and drive the log'n roads and enjoy the countryside, than they gated the roads and hassled climbers go'n to crag especially during the week, now they have locked up the crag and a big part of the countryside to public access, and I think they get a public access tax break.... This is just wrong on soo many levels BIG FISH ....WEYERHAEUSER LITTLE FISH....PUBLIC GOBBLE GOBBLE LITTLE FISH EATEN BY BIG FISH

The signage is already up,NO ACCESS EXCEPT BY PERMIT, I think this is going to be a year round closure

I think whats happening is Weyerhaeuser is shutting the Vail area to all access year round except for 750 permits at $150.00 each for hunting season August 1 to December 31... I think Weyerhauser gets a public access tax break WTF

Fossil Rock has new signage, access only by permit, see link below.. WTF 150.00 Weyerhaeuser http://www.weyerhaeuser.com/pdfs/businesses/recreationalaccess/Vail-Hotline-Message.pdf Starts August 1st

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