Dru

Trundling good. hitting people below bad.

How long is it gonna be before there is a route called Sea of Vipers??? Charlet still #1, since BD tools are becoming more like Charlet all the time.... imitation the sincerest form of flattery...

Your momma is so fat she breaks trampolines! AND... her shoe size is F150!

Go to the Ramparts and steal all of Fred and Ray's new routes

Isnt disagreeing with the IPCC while claiming not to understand the finer points of the science, like disagreeing with Darwin cause the bible doesn't say anything about dinosaurs or Homo Habilis?

Get Bow Valley Rock in addition to Selected Alpine cause BVR has all the alpine rock near Canmore like Yamnuska, Ha Ling aka Chinamans, EEOR (East End Of Rundle) etc in it which is good if you lookimg for 10-15 pitch 5.6-5.12's. Also outside the park is less spendy.

Louis and Edith are good limestone and daytrips from Banff or Canmore. Lots of rock routes to choose from. NE ridge of Ha Ling is also reportedly about as popular as Da Toof.

ANWR should only be drilled if it can be drilled on lead otherwise retrosaurus must get his crowbar out again!

OHMYGOD SAVED!!!!!!! I thought I was gonna go insane!!! Most people DECIDE when they are gonna go cold turkey. (or should that be cold snafflehound?) [ 07-16-2002, 12:17 PM: Message edited by: Dru ]

Yeah Man, Free Beckey!!!! He's Innocent I tell Ya!

Lowell if you continue like you are going to Spickard and then cut right once you are past all the brush, your feet stay dry. Looking down on it from the route you can see the bush-free path. We plotted our way out that way. That said we were there early July and there was still snow where later there might have been more bush.

MtnGoat there is 30% more C02 in the atmosphere right now than there was pruior to the Industrial Revolution. Over that time the mean global temperature has increased by [don't have this figure readily available, IIRC it is more than 1 degree C]. and the Northern Hemisphere growing season is now 9 days longer. Please tell us what part of this increase is non-anthropogenically caused.

quote: Originally posted by Poseur: We must put an end to this sort of civilized discourse lest we tarnish the reputation of cc.com. Well damn me and trask were tryin' Oh well back to waxing the snafflehound... protecting the horsecock... whatever...

Driving up Hwy 9 on a short cut from Sedro Wooley back to Sumas my eye was caught by a set of pinnacles on the ridge E of Van Zandt. This would be due west of the Twin Sisters I guess. These pinnacles looked to be 25-30m high and sand or limestone. Any idea if there are routes there? Dont recall seeing info on them in Bellingham Rock or the Kloke "Boulders and Outcrops" guide but maybe I'm mistaken? [ 07-16-2002, 03:48 PM: Message edited by: Dru ]

Ya "better put some purple klister on this cucumber for better glide, its getting hot", huh.

i bet joe simpson was glad he never shit in that crevasse on the way up or it woulda made his crawl that more disgusting...

quote: Originally posted by trask: hey drul hey trask 8==D------*

quote: Originally posted by Off White: I recall some little burger stand up by Robson. I think it was Mountain Burger. Famished, we all ordered the specialty of the house, the "Mountain Burger" and got half way through before we realized it didn't quite taste right. When closely questioned, the proprietor had to admit that it was some kind of soy product, which he tried to justify by adding "I think it makes a better burger, don't you?" Do they have to list the ingredients on things in Canada yet? I always liked those coffee creamers that just said "an edible oil product" that we would build into tall pyramids on long rainy afternoons in Banff... The ingredients have always been listed in BOTH ENGLISH AND FRENCH, just not the %DV of fat etc. But you know something... in Canada the only vegetables and fruit in the grocery store that are waxed are the American imprts? How come 60% of Americans are obese?Must be all that wax they eat on everything!

quote: Originally posted by mattp: Lambone - When I mentioned the E. Ridge of Mount Temple, I actually meant the E. Ridge of Mount Edith Cavelle. The E. Ridge of Temple is 5.7, and although most of it is a scramble it is in reality a rather large and serious climb on which there are great epics on a regular basis. If you are there with a partner who is up for a long day with some complicated route finding on loose rock and maybe a little bit of messy mixed climbing, it is a great climb. But I wouldn't recommend it for your honeymoon unless your wife was pretty hardcore. The E. Ridge of Cavelle is long for a newbie, but much easier and has better rock. If you try that one, consider descending the route as the descent off the back (not altogether trivial) leaves you with a rather long walk home. - Matt Damn when I saw you call ER of Temple a 5.4 I figured you were setting him up for a major sandbag... now you say it was all a mistake

quote: Originally posted by AlpineK: quote:Originally posted by Dru: AVOID THESE PLACES: Charles Hotel and Green Canyon Motor Inn in Boston Bar; The Jolly Miller Pub in Sardis; Totem Hotel buffet in Lillooet; Klahanie Inn in Squamish; Mountain Burger House in Squamish; Pemberton Hotel in Pemberton. Mountain Burger rules. Old school Squamish not a trendy place PineyK the MBH has seriously declined over the last couple of years. Now it is like you are getting a large helping of cigarette ash served in every meal. I mean I have been going there for like 25 years (used to get icecream there when I was a little kid) and it is seriously the worst its ever been. The only reason to avoid the Klahanie, tho, is cause it is a spendy tourist trap. The food is Ok. If you want real old school Squamish the best place is actually the 99'er in Brittania Beach.

Here is an idea for filling old bolt holes. Take a pebble and grind it down until it fits the hole like an ice cream scoop fits the cone. Then tap it into the hole. With any luck somebody is gonna think its a xenolith and try and crimp on it and then Pop!!!

Hollyburn when I was 5. I was already wondering what was on the other side of that mountain on the way up. i was so disappointed to find out it was just some boring valley. I figured there should have been a lost world with dinosaurs and stuff. I remenmber the first time i hiked up the Chief and saw Garibaldi I was so impressded. I figured a peak way up north like that was probably in Alaska...

quote: Originally posted by Poseur: 20 years ago these same concerns were being expressed over the coming ice age - which is it? Doesnt this show that scientists are willing to change their minds when confronted with data showing the opposite of what they believe to be true, unlike conservative (Ok, all) politicians?

Four sections 1)glacier travel to get to ice apron 2) ice apron ( the 700' you mention) 3) snow arete 4) finishing pitches (two options) 1) can be the crux late in the year like September when the snow has melted. avoid cravasses, cross schrund where applicable, gain 2) 2) climb 250m of snow and ice "up to 60 degrees" but mostly 50 degrees. if its late in the year you can climb on the left edge allegedly and place rock pro, or climb 4th class rock on the left. 3) move up the easy snow/ice arete above the apron with good exposure on both sides 4) either do a mixed traverse left into a couloir and climb it about 300m to the summit ridge, or go straight up rock from the top of the snow arete. this is what i did. we followed a crack/ledge system on the right wall of the couloir -for 8 pitches of rock up to 5.7. Ok in plastic boots. doing the mixed traverse and couloir would have been about 100X faster than the stupid rock pitches. from wherever you top out (couloir or rock) the summit is a fair ways away andhigher (3rd class sscrambling). the fastest descent goes south fronm the top of the couloir so leave all your gear where you top-out on the ridge, run tag the summit, come back, grab your gear and descend. oh yeah - everybody says this - and it is true - but no one pays attention - WHEN YOU ARE HIKING IN AND YOU COME OUT IN THE MEADOWED BOWL BELOW THE FACE, CIRCLE WAY AROUND ON THE LEFT, DONT HEAD STRAIGHT FOR THE FACE cause there are about 6 waist deep stream crossings that are too wide to jump across and its tedious and damp crossing them.