Dru

i hope you aren't calling this porn!

How come all the planes you post pictures of are Going Down?

quote: Originally posted by krazy 1: whatever... i thought the disc was a little smaller a little web search turns up the fact that Frisbee is trademark of Wham-O. so if you play catch with a "disc" I bet you also take generic ibuprofen instead of Advil, go to the gorge to use your sailboard, not Windsurfer, wipe your nose with tissue not Kleenex and place SLCD's not Friends. Although the last one is kind of an age thing if you call all cams Friends you probably started climbing in the 70's or earlier.

I thought cool people called it a Disc and the F word was only used by the unknowing.

quote: Originally posted by Heinouscling: quote:Originally posted by Dru: quote:Originally posted by Darrel: Dru, one other time by the neighbor's wife. I got mistaken for a wolf one time by the neighbors wife. No surprise there. I heard you have quite the hairy back. -Heinous You must be thinking of this guy:

Im betting summits are important to Scot'trixie and the summitpose.commers. I guess I have been known to go out of my way to bag peaks like climbing Angel Crest and hiking over to 3rd summit of the Chief on way out, or when we did Purple People Eaters JS and I made the 1km horizontal walk to the summit from the top of our route just to bag it...but to me mostly I do it cause when I finish the route Im already as close to the summit as I will ever be, so if I want to summit that is the best time to do it. On the other hand I've climbed 5 new routes on Salal Creek Walls and never yet have I continued over to Athelstan.

Ran outta rice krispies.

 [ 09-24-2002, 01:46 PM: Message edited by: Dru ]

8 does too equal d in the following equation. d x d x 2 = 128. solve for d.

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Not many lines at this crag. Yeah there are only 4 routes visible in that photo

No Tool?

PP: "Back in the 70s I had a partner who use to solo all the time. We got into many arguments when I would ask him to stop if others were around. My reasoning was that he was being a jerk to risk falling in front of others who had no say in his actions. If we were by ourselves, I let him solo away. As with posting advice the context was everything." pp: "SK - It is really quite simple those I call "friends" tend to care about my feelings and I tend to care about theirs. Since my friend's actions were causing me discomfort I was confident he would want to know it. So I told him my thoughts, we discussed it and he thought I was goofy but modified his actions because he realized I was being sincere" Why did it (friends soloing) only bother you when there were other people around? Cause it looked like he was burning you off?

I say just bring a boom box and some real loud Puff Daddy. That should clear out everyone who didnt bring earplugs and will let you practice climbing in an alpine gale where you cannot hear your partner yelling off belay. [ 09-24-2002, 11:05 AM: Message edited by: Dru ]

Hey Mike Layton!!! Chinese Puzzle Wall (white wall at lower left)is unclimbed!!! So is the ridge that continues from its top to South illusion!!! You better go do em quick !!!

quote: Originally posted by Peter Puget: My soloing example was only to show how I view my responsibilty to the "unknown" other. Dru - Sometimes and in some areas soloing just isn't proper. PP Give me some examples PP. When you say isnt proper you sound like you are judging how I should climb. My point is, when soloing, I'M the only one who shoul be judging how I climb, not you or any one else. Otherwise its not soloing. One of the reasons to solo is to make all decisions your own responsibility.

"Excuse me, Im not very experienced - can I ask you why you are [doing that unsafe thing] that way?" Insert some excusde here from unsafe climber. "Because, I was wondering why you aren't concerned about [consequence of unsafe thing] - couldn't that happen if [something goes wrong]?" Then sit back and listen to the rationalization and excuses. Or maybe you will make them think about it! Also having spare chunks of rope to do the 'loaded rope swas thru a sling' demo is always useful.

part of climbing safely is learning to evaluate hazards and form your own opinion as to the level of danger they pose. some of the hazards it is important to learn to evaluate are other climbers, other climbers, and other climbers.

If you are soloing, the last thing you should think about is if there are other people nearby watching you or not*. In your landing zone is another matter, even then, you could ask them to move, or whatever. I have passed roped parties while soloing on the Apron. What would you have me do, turn around and downclimb? * Although it would be worse to only solo with others watching than the other way around. HEY LOOK AT ME IM A HARDMAN AND I SOLO THIS!!!

Page top. Alpine is looking good for weekend and hence Lworth is looking like a no show for me. If you know any rain dances SK, you better do em.

quote: Originally posted by Bronco: Dru, Are you implying there could be other "roadside" crags with in a short drive of Mountaineers doom featureing low to mid 5th class rock? Even anchors you can walk to? Sure. The aforementioned RotoWall for instance. The left side of Domestic Dome. Sunset Slab at Pechosstin. Bruces Boulder, Barneys Rubble. Rat Creek Boulder. XY crag. etc etc. I dont doubt either that the new Kramar guide will have even more XY crag type crags.

mmmmm fish sauce on the pasta

stefan that is dangerously close to blaming the victim. you think this guy DESERVED to be hit by a rock?

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Don't you mean this site

quote: Originally posted by Off White: Dwayner: You should forward some version of your post to both the WAC and the Mounties, because it is an issue that won't be going away, and as organizations they should work on adopting some policy that emphasizes the sharing aspect. Lots of folks get taught by friends rather than classes, and it is a drag to have ideal beginner climbs perpetually occupied by groups. I know there are climbs at Squamish that suffer the same fate, but I don't know if the classes there take the "I claim this crag in the name of the king of Spain" approach. Does a class show up and festoon all of the Burgers & Fries crag with a rope from every anchor? I know Mclane does make a point of talking about etiquette for popular climbs in his guide. Back in the spring, Capt. and Highlander and I showed up at this crag at Skaha that was covered with ropes for a guided class of about 10, I guess. They had maybe 7 ropes set up (7 ropes for max. 5 climbers at a time ) but the guides went out of their way to direct the clients to move out of our way and let us lead climb what we wanted to. I thought that was pretty cool of them and maybe more should consider acting like that. Also at Squamish, guides have developed these various small, obscure easy craglets specifically for teaching on and no one else ever seems to climb there - Call it A Day at Smoke Bluffs and Oh My Dog at Cheakamus [the latter one isnt even in the guidebook and is probably the only cliff at Cheak NOT set up for leading on making it a TR heaven] [ 09-24-2002, 09:06 AM: Message edited by: Dru ]