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Sounds like adventure! Send a report to Alpinist and the AAJ and Hot Flashes too.

If desert spires count as "alpine" thenm is it only Colorado/Utah/New Mex spires or does Monkey Face count???????

def of alpinist: M. F. Twight, Steve House, Barry Blachard, Fred Beckey ( i know he climbs desert spires too), Marko Prezelj, JC Lafaille, Voytek Kurtyka, Joe Simpson etc. not alpinist: John Bachar, Chris Sharma, Dave Graham, Alan Watts, John Dunne, Tori Allen, hikers.

Or the recycled Kennan Harvey pics from when he was dating Steph Davis mmmmmm?

Gore Tex? You mean ACTION SUIT!!!!

I bet you wouldnt post a TR now because you aint done squat, Layton.

Ive gotta say though, they are more fun when happening to other people Mike, I would do the route again in a flash, if there were a better descent, like maybe a snowmobile waiting in Spoon Creek or some friends with snowshoes or skis on the summit ridge meeting me. But otherwise the long tired dark slog out was what made it a 1-time-only thing.

I never said suffering and misery werent fun, Matt.

The only difference between a desert spire and an adjacent cliff of say, Wingate sandstone, is that the spire has a much smaller diameter. American desert spires, with only few exceptions, are cragging, not alpine. The same goes for the sandstone in Wadi Rum and so on. Antarctica is glaciated etc. so Id call those alpine. Ditto Patagonian spires. Has nothing to do with the height of the mts. in question.

You could make Marmite/Vegemite flavour with home made.

H O R S E C O C K = 8 15 18 19 5 3 15 3 11 = 97

of course you can go out left or right or whatever.... stick clip the 7th bolt and pendulum off of it... www.m9ice.com... ho hum.

wow really! go on you gotta be kidding me. no one could climb anything that steep and scary.

Desert spires are a type of cragging albeit one that gets you to the summit. I have climbed a few. I think they are sufficiently covered by the current climbing mags and there is no need for Alpinist to do so too.

I read somewhere that the Russians experimented with using neutrino beam acupuncture to speed healing in the 1980s, with some success. They were able to get a dog to regrow a severed leg. However the process was never tested on humans due to the unfortunate side effects.

He's real hot shit with a Search engine though and some folks believe the man might hike a bit. At least as far as the fridge for more beer.

"herds of GU running Wild"

Yeah more of this banter! If it was out of shape y'all should have helicoptered in a bunch of liquid nitrogen and flashfrozen the sucker together for the successful redpoint. If you couldnt afford a helicopter obviously youu arent a real Alpinist

If its "dedicated to alpine" I have to wonder why the big feature on (yawn) desert spire climbing. Or the fiction piece about some aging tradster out with his buddy. Or the recycled Kennan Harvey photos. I also disliked the fact that they had Tami Knight write and had someone else (Jeremy Collins, yawn) do the art! What the , don't they understand that Tami's CARTOONS are her main strength???? And there were a lot of typos and minor errors just like when Beckwith ran the AAJ. But I still bought a copy and have reread it several times!

Yes but Im only half way thru the roll so it might be a few weeks yet.

I tried to put on weight preparatory to ice climbing Rockies but was only moderately successful HOWEVER, eating burgers and beer in pub every night, plus munchie sessions frying up bacon at 1 AM, put on some poundage WHILE iceclimbing. Also sleeping inside warm rooms instead of outside in the cold probably helped the calorie conservation. BUT: 1 15 hour day of mountaineering on Friday, consuming only 2 sticks of , 1 energy bar, some cookies and a few sunflower seeds plus a fruit & nut bar, did WONDERS. I musta lost 10 lbs. I bet half of it was dehydration though.

I read somewhere about sailing voyages of the 18th or 19th century. If the smoked pig chunk was green the cook would soak it in vinegar for a day or tow it behind the ship on a line until the brine had eroded the green then fry it up and serve it. Probably went well with mouldy ships biscuits full of weevils. The only problem with the tow-line method is that sharks following the ship might eat the pig. But it you towed it on a hook then you could reel it in and half fresh shark instead of green pig!

Snow covered rock IS Mixed climbing as the Scots define it. Drytooling to hanging ice daggers is just a North American/Euro aberration.

There is now a longer TR on bivouac.com if you like reading about my chestbeating. Look here http://www.bivouac.com/TripPg.asp?TripId=2204

Dude. I would never ever go repeat that route having done it once. HOWEVER, it's defnitely worth doing once! I think the Serl route is probably the most classic line. I didnt get to see Knight. Lady was in the way. However, I talked to Guy Edwards yesterday - he went in for a bash at E side of Slesse winter route but didnt feel like soloing it. He told me Spagnut had been in to Wahleach Lake side of things to try Lady & Knight but didnt climb either.