Dru

fees suck but I'm all in favor of anything that gets Repugnicans and ORV dune buggy nuts pissed off and riled up

don't forget that trendy cassius clay fellow

Can you make a winter ascent in the fall

Oh my god!

Who knows? Certainly not you. Maybe it would have been the difference between life and death. Maybe not. Wear your helmet folks. I have seen what happens to a helmet when a 300lb rock hits it

I think you have to have at least 3 avatars just for trolling in order to claim a successful Amber point.

Do you think a helmet makes a difference when the boulder weighs 300 pounds?

Better evac'd from BBQ The Pope than evac'd from Bunny Face though....

It's better to take a clean fall on a sport climb, than to give up and grab a draw.

Damn!

dirty tricks? Is ODB going to be disqualified? Seems so.

TMI

he's gonna look like a deflated beachball if he does get down to like 200 lbs.

he'd make a kick ass sumo, fer damnsure.

the climber who has the most fun is the best at clipping the chains

halfton loses 300 lbs.

on the free Grand Wall you send the underfling then make a 13a crux move (so I'm told) to a no hands rest and clip the anchor from that. thus avoiding the problem. Since the regfular Grand has aid it is inappropriate to speak of redpointing it. We are talking sport ethics in this thread anyways. Please stay on subject.

Scuba-diving is aid too Stefan. Don't bolt the coral!

your photo looks more like a to me than a edit -now i see those are "hand cheeks"

I am contrasting the stand of snowmobile user groups, that campaign for increased terrain for sleds, to mattp's description of the WCC, which apparently exists to work in the other direction, taking policies that land managers set and enforcing them on climbers...

Not sure where the wheelbarrow thing comes from since hand drills are PERMITTED in wilderness - where is the motor in a wheelbarrow?

Grabbing the chains to clip is aid, except on routes where the chains are specifically intended to be clipped - and these routes are bogus. You should clip the chains free before you take in order to redpoint successfully. Anything else is weak

Can anyone legally guide me up Willis Wall?

exactly. if they publically advocate changing the law they will lose some climber support. but i imagine if they do NOT advocate to change the law they will still be supported by some of those those who still personally advocate changing the law

Snowmobile groups argue for more snowmobiling in parks and so on.... Why shouldn't a climbers group argue for more climbing? Or the ability to place bolts via powerdrill instead of hand drill. Not that currently illegal practices should be ignored, but advocate for changing the law to permit?