Dru

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: There is so much good climbing in Utah. Walls, boulders, sporties, granite, ice. Send photos! In fact if it wasn't for the lack of beer and the presence of weird religious people Utah might be considered liveable.

where was your best ever trundle? Doug Wilm and I pushed some house sized boulders down the 2000' north face of Scuzzy Mountain once and started a rock avalanche. That was supremely fulfilling. Smoke and dust and that gunpowder smell. Also got some good velocity chucking volcanic bombs down a huge dirt slope on Brohm Ridge into the headwaters of the Cheekeye River. Roll roll roll bounce smack boom!

i'm actually posting something totally serious! you know, I started climbing in 1990 with the UBC climbing and outdoors club. Over the years I have actually been in many large hordes of club climbers. i climbed needle peak with 25 people. i set up TRs and spent all day showing peopole how to belay, all those club type things. and I did have a good time doing it. but I must confess that never once did i feel that i owned the outdoors. when i had a large group of beginners top roping i had them either at some dedicated TR crag like Burgers and Fries, or at some godforsaken obscure hole like "Oh My Dog". never did i have a TR hanging down a cliff with no one climbing on it, and never did i refuse anyone who was not in my party from giving a route we had set up on a go if they didnt mind waiting until the current climber was finished. in fact the VOC was and is well known for camping out in shitty condtions up at cerise creek or wherever to ensure that anyone who came up planning to sleep in the hut would not find it full of club members. and when i did alpine trips with larger groups, usually we did not even encounter another party, and on the rare occasion we did we did not impede them in any way. and i never led any groups larger than about 4 on any technical routes - and we soloed on 4th class routes instead of fixing lines and seiging. so there! so if we could do it why can't the mountaineers? it sounds like they own the cascades, i wonder how they managed to buy them, and from who?

I found these useful. www.gravsports.com http://www.alpineclubofcanada.ca/calgary/news/currentconditions.html www.avalanche.ca for avvy conditions. Normally Cyril Shokoples' Rescue Dynamics site has good conditions reports http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/resqdyn/current.htmbut for some reason it has been down since november. Some family tragedy or something I heard. May start updating later on though. The last 3 are also useful if you plan on some backcountry skiing too. [ 01-04-2002: Message edited by: Dru ]

actually i just checked the lillowet weathere forecast. today high +3 low +1. tomorrow high +4 low -1. sunday high +6 low +2. rain 60% tonight, tomorrow, 40% sunday. hope bone took the aqualung. either that or is spending all his timne up the duffy where it is reportedly colder and drier according to the avvy forecast at www.avalanche.ca

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: The answer is:Dan Larson You mean a "Rainier Mountaineer"

...supposedly until the 6th. but the temp in lillooet today is supposed to max out at +7 C so maybe the dood is swimming in Pavilion Lake instead?

burp

The reason I asked the original question (do Spokane Mountaineers = seattle Montaineers AKA THE MOUNTAINEERS) is because one of the Spokane group told me they were totally different. But in terms of behaviour, they seem to perform exactly the same (ie swarm popular areas with huge hordes.) SO i wondered what the difference was? And what would happen if Seattle & Spokane Mountaineer hordes both showed up to top rope the same area on the same day? would they brawl it out or merge into a horde twice the size?

i am not an experienced climber... i am a bumbly gorby. but i do my bumbling in small groups in remote areas so as not to diminish the experience for others.

Will, breaking rocks in the prison courtyard, making license plates, and picking up trash from the side of the highway on a chain gang, don't count as working for the government. so have you really qualified?

Does it come with a zip-in fleece liner???

I HAVE NO AVATARS!!!!!!!! In particular I am not pope, Dwayner, LittleBunnyFooFoo, Trask, Lambone or Dan Larson.

I know of at least one person who frequents this board who is stocky, climbs 5.9 and WI3, smokes weed and owns guns. I know of at least one person who frequents this board who has climbed Mt Rainier, not once, but several times! I know of at least two Canadian membes of this board who work for the government, and at least two members that are highly placed employees at MEC. I know of several "persons" who frequent this board that exist only in the imagination! [ 01-04-2002: Message edited by: Dru ]

charlet saf'lock leash - if you want to use a leash that you never undo this is the one. you lock it down tight and when you place a screw or whatever just let your tool dangle off your wrist. i switched to this system when i changed from mitts to gloves and it works well with the quark because they are so light. but if you dont torque leash as tight as it goes the cuff slips around on your hand so that you end up with the padding on top when the screw is placed and then it can be a bitch to get back to its proper position.

thanx man i will try that out with the warranty pair.

so according to the latest haffner creek ethics if it forms even one tiny icicle and you climb the 12d, then make one axe placement before clipping the anchors, it is a mixed climb and you can call it m9+.

those guys that dont read this site will never eat sauna sausage. how i wish i had never seen this site.

you take a bottle and bust a little hole in the side. put some steel wool over it. put the rock on the steel wool, torch it, suck on the neck of the bottle. then go break into another car for money to score some more rock.

10 copies to Dan Larson....

one of the guys that was in the clubhouse sounded EXACTLY like the father in "King of the Hill".

Yo Caveman I am in for Synchroslurpee. I will lead the crux 5m pillar!

So the ACC hut ("clubhouse") in Canmore was overrun with Spokane Mountaineers. They were observed/reported swarming up topropes at Junkyards and Johnston Canyon. Are they some breed of Mountie or a different species?

must be American beer. sure cant be Guinness or the Irish would have become extinct by now.

I believe the Eiger nord Wand is approximately 72000" long, or is that, high. Shlangeshmecker can you confirm?