ivan Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 am i the only cavalier round here? kinda feels that way. gawdamn, seems our sweet university can't content itself just to be shitty at sports these days, we gotta go out n' fine new ways to suck. surprised them professional news boys ain't made the connection yet - doesn't seem so hard - our school was founded by a confirmed rapist (n' third president of the usa), no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 meat is murder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZimZam Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 hillbilly elitist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 yes, i believe more than a few folks called jefferson that i actually remember wandering through that house a few times - pretty much all the "stat-frats" off the mad-bowl we're chock full'o'assholes - never heard anything about gang rape in my 5 years then, but remember one of them houses on the mad bowl getting in deep shit for an ante-bellum theme party they threw where they hired black homeless guys to pick up cotton-balls out in the yard - jesus h christ, how'd that shit not invite the kiss of death? the small houses like mine were generally chill places w/ moderate sized egos though - worst we ever did was throw an easter party w/a life-sized paper-mache jesus wine dispenser on a cross virginians have been raging shits since way back - it was like, in all the papers crazy shit to be sure and i'll be happy when it's a thing of the past, just can't imagine how or when that'd ever be - hard to take the asshole out of human beings, especially in the sweet sunny south Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZimZam Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 It'll stop when people start going to jail for rape for a long time, and bros stop high fivin' each other for scoring(raping) a drunk freshman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 perhaps california's "yes means yes" idea will work? hard to imagine drunken 19 year olds ever acting rationaly though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dberdinka Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Read the Rolling Stone article last night. Gave the impression that girls (along with their families) in that culture accept rape as a necessary side effect of maintaining some sort of social privilege/position. So I glad I exist in our little remote bubble up here in the PNW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 there's a reason i left the south never hung out on a college campus here in my new homeland - i'd be surprised if it's radically different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Looks like Rolling Stone has retracted the story. Too bad you guys already had the trial. Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 did we? i just wanted to make the snarky comment that my school was founded by a rapist so it shouldn't be so shocking if his students turned out that way too i certainly hope the fellers in that house didn't do what RS has now said they think they didn't - my point was that, at least when i was there, that house and the handful around it were in fact peopled by raging assholes which wouldn't have suprised me at all if they'd in fact done something so evil - the cotton-ball story i related above i saw w/ my own eyes, so i at least have confidence in that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Looks like Rolling Stone has retracted the story. Too bad you guys already had the trial. Again. http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/05/us/rolling-stone-uva-apology/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 my favorite (easter) party at uva - the paper mache skin n' the burgundy stigmata were the icing on the cake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) The notion that "well, it fits my worldview therefore it must have really happened that way" works for certain things, I suppose. Still, the narrative can't be held higher than facts when it comes to things like this. Ferguson is another case in point. Duke lacrosse, ditto. Lefties seem particularly fond of the media trial these days. Probably part of the reason no one's gonna trust em to run the whole show. Like, ever. Edited December 5, 2014 by Fairweather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Our comprehensive indoctrination program has ensured that the Liberal Apocalypse will soon be upon us once the Selfie Generation seizes the Gaming Consoles of Power! Fly, my Tweeting Little Monkeys, Fly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 The media has provided adequate and thoroughly damning evidence that Bill Cosby is a serial rapist. Can we dispense with the trial now and just convict? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Have you seen his new show? The Fuck Stables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Have you seen his new show? The Fuck Stables. Everything always comes back to Enumclaw... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I hope we can finish ragging on Cosby in time to go see the new Polanski and Woody Allen movies. It's OK that those guys are pedo rapists because they are white. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Now, that's a really good question, G... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 Lefties seem particularly fond of the media trial these days. since when did both sides (and the middle) NOT love a media trial? the phenomenon is as old as mass media itself - leopold and loeb? mccarthy hearings? oj? jesus' crucifixion? it makes little sense to criticize folks for assuming the truth of a current event b/c it fits their world view - that's like, ya know, how the animal brain works, no? i hold myself out as an example in this situation, but as an example too of how that instinct doens't have to be bad: i knew the house and the culture from direct experience - i couldn't be surprised at the initial story because it DID fit my direct contact w/ those things - but i didn't fling poo directly at anyone invovled b/c this SPECIFIC incident was one that i couldn't have such direct knowledge of. again, like the fergouson thing, the validity of the specific incident is not necessarily relevant to the underlying truth of the general reality: uva (and colleges in general) ARE places were sad shit like rape occurs, largely b/c the culture there is one that favors getting wasted and doing stupid shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Side topic, but CNN is running a pretty good special right now questioning the sustainability and value of the American university model itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 things fall apart, the center can not hold... why study anything? the drones are coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffy The Wanker Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 as an adult woman I went to dinner with a man and went back to his place to check it out. he proceeded to tell me that because I came back to his house i had to have sex with him. I bailed faster than I can fall out of cruel sister in the smith rock gorge. Yikes that was almost a really bad situation. I was in my 30's and was very nearly date raped. had I not been Muffy and not been 30ish that could have turned out really differently. I live in a college town. everyone knows rape happens. what is sad is that no one wants to talk about it. hell that was the first time I told that story. I should have smeared his name all over the place, but not even i did that. I will say that person stopped posting on cc.com at least using the same avatar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 as an adult woman I went to dinner with a man and went back to his place to check it out. he proceeded to tell me that because I came back to his house i had to have sex with him. I bailed faster than I can fall out of cruel sister in the smith rock gorge. Yikes that was almost a really bad situation. I was in my 30's and was very nearly date raped. had I not been Muffy and not been 30ish that could have turned out really differently. I live in a college town. everyone knows rape happens. what is sad is that no one wants to talk about it. hell that was the first time I told that story. I should have smeared his name all over the place, but not even i did that. I will say that person stopped posting on cc.com at least using the same avatar. you met him on here? i thought climbers were all warm and fuzzy liberals, deep in the trenches, battling the war on women Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffy The Wanker Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 as an adult woman I went to dinner with a man and went back to his place to check it out. he proceeded to tell me that because I came back to his house i had to have sex with him. I bailed faster than I can fall out of cruel sister in the smith rock gorge. Yikes that was almost a really bad situation. I was in my 30's and was very nearly date raped. had I not been Muffy and not been 30ish that could have turned out really differently. I live in a college town. everyone knows rape happens. what is sad is that no one wants to talk about it. hell that was the first time I told that story. I should have smeared his name all over the place, but not even i did that. I will say that person stopped posting on cc.com at least using the same avatar. you met him on here? i thought climbers were all warm and fuzzy liberals, deep in the trenches, battling the war on women I have met many climbers on here. all but one were respectful and actually kind smart and amazing men. I have had a few stop off at my house on the way somewhere else to get a nights rest. One even watched my kids for six months or so. it is not the site, I was the person. the dinner was not a date I just happened to be in town. it was someone I had climbed with and had a buddy relationship with.at least that was what I thought. being a climber does not preclude one from having respect for women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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