olyclimber Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 Any evidence to support or to deny? I'm all ears. Quote
olyclimber Posted January 16, 2014 Author Posted January 16, 2014 So far all the evidence points towards a vengeful, angry god who would love those with the least scruples to win. Prove me wrong. Quote
ivan Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 "ever notice how people who don't believe in evolution usually look really fucking unevolved?" Quote
Pete_H Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 Kevbone is good evidence devolution is occuring Quote
Fairweather Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 "ever notice how people who don't believe in understand evolution usually look really fucking unevolved?" Â Evolution is not headed in any particular direction. Must be random stupid ugly. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 Apparently, if you left these critters alone for too long, they'd emerge driving lizard cars n shit:  Anolis evolution in the Bahamas  The rate of evolution among viruses, bacteria and insects leave these guys in the beach sand. Quote
Fairweather Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 My prediction: an island of hemophiliac lizards. Quote
Fairweather Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 I hope these curious docs don't start planting polar bears in Antarctica or penguins on Baffin. Â Not that I've ever thought about it or anything. Quote
ivan Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 these fuckers might be able to make a go on (under?) europa Quote
Fairweather Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 What the hell is that thing? Â Â Europa is cool, but Enceladus is my favorite. Â Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) Its a gar. Â They've pretty much opted out of the whole evolution thing. Â Jesus, why do I even fucking know that.... Edited January 18, 2014 by tvashtarkatena Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) Enceladus is cool if you like that greeny blue schmeg you see at Jellystone, but Europa's got 3 times more liquid water than Earth. Â Could give ice fishing a whole new direction. Bring extra line and lots more whiskey. Edited January 18, 2014 by tvashtarkatena Quote
Fairweather Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 Sounds kinda like a Coelacanth. A Gar--I guess I missed that one. Nothing wrong with enjoying evolutionary peace in a static environment--if you can find it. Having effectively insulated ourselves from the physical environment--and having managed to hold at bay for the time being our microscopic antagonists--there seems little left to act on or select for mutations in our own genome moving forward. Seems like we humans are likely to maintain our present phenotype for as long as we can manipulate the status quo. I wonder if Gars think we're really ugly. Quote
olyclimber Posted January 18, 2014 Author Posted January 18, 2014 I knew a guy up in Bellingham named Gar. He pretty much looked just like that thing. Quote
ScottP Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 Laurence Moran says you should already know the answer to the question. Â Quote
olyclimber Posted January 18, 2014 Author Posted January 18, 2014 When you italicise a word, it doesn't make it more REAL. Checkmate. Your move atheists. Quote
ivan Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 don't mess with the panda, you'll get the thumb Quote
mountainsandsound Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 Its a gar. Â They've pretty much opted out of the whole evolution thing. Â Jesus, why do I even fucking know that.... Â It's all about sturgeon. A quarter of a billion years with no significant changes. And they keep the river bottoms nice and clean. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 We have another living fossil right in our own backyard:  Mountain Beaver  Weird critter. They eat their own poo, climb trees, and don't hibernate. And they're not real beavers, either - more closely related to squirrels.  Anyone ever seen one? I haven't. Quote
Fairweather Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 When you italicise a word, it doesn't make it more REAL. Checkmate. Your move atheists. Â Blinder alert I did not realize only atheists accept evolution and are allow in Oly's club I know plenty of Christians Jews Muslims Hindus Sikhs deists and agnostics who are on the team okay I don't really know any muslims but I'm sure there are some who see the logic Quote
olyclimber Posted January 19, 2014 Author Posted January 19, 2014 i will not belong to this club if it would allow me to be a member. i have principles. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) This is giving me a hankerin' for some mountain beaver Edited January 19, 2014 by tvashtarkatena Quote
pcg Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 We have another living fossil right in our own backyard: Mountain Beaver  Weird critter. They eat their own poo, climb trees, and don't hibernate. And they're not real beavers, either - more closely related to squirrels.  Anyone ever seen one?... Over a thirty year period I have only seen them twice near my home and both encounters were nearly identical. I'm driving along a road in a canyon near my house and here's this little thing about the size of a large gopher crawling around in the middle of the road in the middle of the day. I stop the car, get out, and walk up to investigate. As soon as I'm a few inches away the little guy attacks my shoe and clamps his teeth onto the sole. I dragged him, hanging onto my shoe, off to the edge of the road and slung him into the bushes with a brisk kick. I was told by ODFW that these guys get "in the rut", so to speak, at certain times of the year, and think they own the world and will take on anything and anyone. According to ODFW they are also partially responsible for attracting mountain lions to our area in the winter. The lions come up tributaries to local rivers (Willamette Valley) to search out and snack on these guys. Quote
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