Cpt.Caveman Posted November 6, 2002 Posted November 6, 2002 quote: Originally posted by thelawgoddess: steep and thin sounds fun ... on tr. one word: ropegun. You can't ride the toprope on all climbs... Quote
COL._Von_Spanker Posted November 6, 2002 Posted November 6, 2002 Ok, Ok, folks I guess I'm a little overzealous, but it's hard to not get excited. They say patience is a vitue, but Ice is like crack, and I think crack would beat virtue in a fight. Quote
Lambone Posted November 6, 2002 Posted November 6, 2002 One may also argue that it is possible to climb thin ice, or fat ice without "bashing it into submission." Â It's called technique. Quote
JayB Posted November 6, 2002 Posted November 6, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Lambone: One may also argue that it is possible to climb thin ice, or fat ice without "bashing it into submission." Â It's called technique. Anyone know where I can buy some of that? I heard it's way cheaper if you order it from Europe over the internet... Quote
gapertimmy Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 i saw some nice lines forming on the cascade lks hwy, i'll snap some pics tomorrow Quote
Alex Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 quote: Originally posted by JayB: quote:Originally posted by Lambone: One may also argue that it is possible to climb thin ice, or fat ice without "bashing it into submission."  It's called technique. Anyone know where I can buy some of that? I heard it's way cheaper if you order it from Europe over the internet... JayB, they dont ship technique to the US, just like everything else they wont ship thanks to "Free Trade" American retail industry. Political Rant, since I can't order Quarks from Telemark Pyranees anymore:  Free Trade to an American == Let us sell our shit anywhere and anyway, relying on overseas slave labor, but when some damn non-american company makes something that could possibly take away marketshare from a competeing American Corporation, KEEP IT OUT OH MY GOOODDD!! Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Lambone: One may also argue that it is possible to climb thin ice, or fat ice without "bashing it into submission."  It's called technique. Whatever He's got a whole lot of technique from 2 climbs. Doubt it  [ 11-06-2002, 04:53 PM: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ] Quote
JayB Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 Dude; Â Have you tried www.sportextreme.com? Are they not shipping Grivel Stuff over here? Quote
Alex Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 no. Quarks! 230$ Euros on this site. 130$ Euros at Telemark Pyranees. I did the math, I want it from Spain. Quote
JayB Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 "Charlet Moser Quark Ice Axe, incl strap  The Top model from Charlet Moser is a tuff competitor to The Top Machine from Grivel and is a beautiful combination of balance and power. incl. Saf´Lock wristloop Our price:  $155.33US" That's unless you want to go leashless with Los Ergos.. Quote
Alex Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 whoh, JayB, I am sorry, I originally looked at the Ergos, which I dont want, my search image was just off I guess. Â You are right, 153 is a great price and worth the extra 20$ to avoid sending them to my parents in Europe, then having the 'rents send em here. Â Thanks for the pointer, sold. Quote
COL._Von_Spanker Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: quote:Originally posted by Lambone: One may also argue that it is possible to climb thin ice, or fat ice without "bashing it into submission." Â It's called technique. Whatever He's got a whole lot of technique from 2 climbs. Doubt it Don't drag my technique into this Ray, I didn't make the thin ice comment. Quote
Figger_Eight Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 Unless you're going to hook or scratch into thin ice people are gonna be bashing it into submission...or destroying it completely. Â This thread cracks me up. Banks Lake is turning into the Exit 38 of ice climbing Quote
Skisports Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 So dose that mean there are going to be hot climber chics climbing in petie outfit??? Quote
bolt_clipper Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 How many have you seen this year? They beat snafflehounds. Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 quote: Originally posted by COL. Von Spanker: Ok, Ok, folks I guess I'm a little overzealous, but it's hard to not get excited. They say patience is a vitue, but Ice is like crack, and I think crack would beat virtue in a fight. One might argue to let that stuff form instead of bashing it into submission too. Quote
COL._Von_Spanker Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: quote:Originally posted by COL. Von Spanker: Ok, Ok, folks I guess I'm a little overzealous, but it's hard to not get excited. They say patience is a vitue, but Ice is like crack, and I think crack would beat virtue in a fight. One might argue to let that stuff form instead of bashing it into submission too. That's why I'm not going. Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 quote: Originally posted by COL. Von Spanker: quote:Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: quote:Originally posted by Lambone: One may also argue that it is possible to climb thin ice, or fat ice without "bashing it into submission." Â It's called technique. Whatever He's got a whole lot of technique from 2 climbs. Doubt it Don't drag my technique into this Ray, I didn't make the thin ice comment.Whatever dude. I doubt you have impeccable technique. Get over it. He's just playing Devils advocate and doesnt know the whole deal. Quote
COL._Von_Spanker Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: quote:Originally posted by COL. Von Spanker: quote:Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: quote:Originally posted by Lambone: One may also argue that it is possible to climb thin ice, or fat ice without "bashing it into submission." Â It's called technique. Whatever He's got a whole lot of technique from 2 climbs. Doubt it Don't drag my technique into this Ray, I didn't make the thin ice comment.Whatever dude. I doubt you have impeccable technique. Get over it. He's just playing Devils advocate and doesnt know the whole deal. Never said I did, in fact I've got a lot to learn and I'll be the first to admit it. It sounds like it's between you and him then. Â I decided to go to Banks lake with my 12 guage and shoot down all the Ice that's forming so you can never climb it.......hahahahahahahaha......so how do you like that all you haters. Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 The 12 gauge has been tried before. Personally I dont care about the ice out there a whole lot. Go for it. Watch out for the locals one of them emailed me and said he was brining his to shoot down the climbers Quote
COL._Von_Spanker Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: The 12 gauge has been tried before. Personally I dont care about the ice out there a whole lot. Go for it. Watch out for the locals one of them emailed me and said he was brining his to shoot down the climbers Thats probably funner than shootin' skeet and parked cars. Quote
Lambone Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 Hey fellas, yeah I was being a smart ass. But I was not trying to say that either of you have bad technique, it'd be foolish to judge you're ice climbing technique by reading posts of the internet. Â All I was really tryin to say that people who have the "kill the ice" attitude really bug me. I don't care if it is fragile newly formed ice, or fat blue mid-season ice. When climbers hack away at it, it fucks it up for other climbers. What bothers me more is when people hack away WHILE ON TOP-ROPE!!! (take ICY BC for example) I've been known to bury my picks while scketched on lead...alot...but there is no excuse for doing it on TR. Call me a Ice-cop if you wish, but I think it's just a matter of being respectfull of our fellow climbers. Â I think climbing early season ice is great for developing technique, because you ussualy can't afford to swing hard, else lose the ice or break your picks. Â I guess the point I am trying to make is that if you are new to ice climbing, practice treading as lightly as possible on the ice while on top-rope or otherwise. Hell, try doing a climb that is less than vertical without your tools, you'll be suprised about what you can do with just your feet. Or just use one tool, or try not to swing at all with two. In my opinion this is the best way to get good at climbing harder ice, and it's ice-friendly. Â Anyway, have fun out there, hope to see ya! Quote
icegirl Posted November 8, 2002 Posted November 8, 2002 I thought the 12 guage was for shooting down the deathsicles.... Â Quote
icegirl Posted November 9, 2002 Posted November 9, 2002 Banks was the exit 38 of washington ice climbing 2-3 years ago. When the ice comes in, Devils PB looks like the Rambles with people lining up to TR the route and dodge deathcicles... Â So, speaking Banks, and the areas surrounding, how have they fared the warm snap? Quote
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