kevbone Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Does Tommy look high? http://inthearena.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/23/shut-up-as-marijuana-debate-heats-up/ Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Love Tommy, but he's not the best spokesperson for the issue. All I can hear is "Dave's not here, myan." Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) Alison Holcomb would have ripped the other guy a chunnel sized asshole without breaking her polite, business casual smile. Edited June 29, 2011 by tvashtarkatena Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 The core of anti MJ folks are concerned parents. They fall into two categories: Those who are willing to admit their kids could, at some point, try pot, and those who refuse to accept that fact. The latter is hopeless, but once the former group compares the future destroying risk of being busted for pot versus the risk of actually smoking it, they come around pretty quickly on the side of legalization. Particularly when they see the statistics of how readily available it is for their little darlings' smoking pleasure, thanks in no small part to the War on Drugs itself. The 'it can't happen here' mentality usually flies out the window at that point. Quote
Kimmo Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 a little disappointing that the face of "common sense" marijuana legalization on CNN is tommy. good theatre i suppose, but certainly doesn't add a voice of reason (well, public consumption "reason") to the debate. Quote
JayB Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 The core of anti MJ folks are concerned parents. They fall into two categories: Those who are willing to admit their kids could, at some point, try pot, and those who refuse to accept that fact. The latter is hopeless, but once the former group compares the future destroying risk of being busted for pot versus the risk of actually smoking it, they come around pretty quickly on the side of legalization. Particularly when they see the statistics of how readily available it is for their little darlings' smoking pleasure, thanks in no small part to the War on Drugs itself. The 'it can't happen here' mentality usually flies out the window at that point. There's also the folks who make a fortune selling the drug on the black market that find the status quo acceptable. Admittedly a small segment - but I'd suspect that reasonable fraction of the people who make a decent living selling weed on the black market look forward to competing with either RJ Reynolds, a state monopoly, or both. "Bootleggers and Baptists, is a model of politics in which opposite moral positions lead to the same vote. Specifically, preachers demand prohibition to make alcohol illegal while the criminal bootlegger wants it to stay illegal so he can stay in business." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootleggers_and_Baptists Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 (edited) Nah. A lot of those folks sell legally to dispensaries now = they're already in the legal market. They're also some of the best entrepreneurs out there - most will navigate whatever new comes along just fine, just like they always have. Big Pot will purchase their expertise and branding (yes, branding has been around for a while, now) if they decide to get into the biz. It'll segment into cheap shitheel high volume rag weed, but the premium producers can easily remain independent, just as they do in the booze trade. Of course, Big Pot will offer a sweetened product with caffeine, burn enhancers,GMO fungicides.... And, of course, all these predictions are complete bullshit. It's a new market with its own variety of cultures. Such new markets don't come along like this very often, and are hard to predict, particularly for the more formulaic thinkers among us. Edited June 30, 2011 by tvashtarkatena Quote
rocketparrotlet Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 It's quite obvious which side is winning the argument, and also quite obvious that it was set up that way. If you use a stoned idiot to represent the face of the legalization movement, it will never pass. Quote
JayB Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Lots of strange bedfellow action on this one: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130755883 Just legalize everything and be done with it. Quote
prole Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Just legalize everything and be done with it. Don't forget to make it affordable, YEESH! Quote
JayB Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Sickening and tragic, but all fairly predictable effects of making drugs illegal. Also not terribly different from the excess mortality caused by toxic substances making their way into alcohol during prohibition - which included a horribly ill conceived plan to scare people out of drinking by poisoning the stock of alcohol that bootleggers were likely to intercept and resell. Think the death toll from that experiment was something like 10,000. http://www.slate.com/id/2245188/ Seems like there'd be plenty of people willing to pay a comparable sum for something that got them just as high, they could buy easily and conveniently, and didn't result in their flesh rotting off. All in all a better outcome. Quote
Off_White Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Oh, and here I thought you were talking about the route at Fossil, more properly referred to as Poppa Oscar Tango... Quote
G-spotter Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 that pink cobble at bottom right is really uigly Quote
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