el jefe Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Like Rich Simpson's sport climbing claims, Neil's inability to repeat "Footprints on The Moon" on demand have called the validity of this problem, not to mention its grade, into question. unlike rich simpson, neil has video of his ascent and can tell us who is belayer was, so there is more validity to his claim than to rich's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Also, Neil's ascent has been repeated by others, thus solidifying its grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Yeah, but Neil's problem hasn't seen a repeat in damn near four decades. Is it possible that it could be down-graded, given technological advances in those ensuing years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindawg Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 So it appears that you are saying it is "my choice". But is that to mean that it is my choice as long as I want to listen to your opinion? Which is it sir, my moral and ethical duty to live by your standard or is it really "my choice"? cheers Guv'na! Addressing the above: It is your choice to trash the environment whether you agree with my definition of such or not. It is your choice whether or not to agree with my "moral and ethical" standards or not. Can I "make" you do such? No, sir. It relies upon your free volition. But ideally you will come around to my favored point of views. A pint to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denalidave Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Neil Armstrong left footprints on the moon. Fucking dick... It was a siege ascent too. First alpine style human powered moon shot byfairmeans ascent is still up for grabs. I'm training to ride my bike there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choada_Boy Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Here's what really matters: Has he sent the headwall yet? Where can I watch the web cast? Reading all of the blog offerings on this is where the meat's at. I get the feeling that the Hardmen sitting down there listening to this douche and his plans are having a hard time not smacking the bitch up. Regarding my "joke" above, human's seem to have an innate desire to go everywhere that they physically can, for any number of reasons. Some leave a mess in the process. Some take risks that others don't or can't. Whatever. This place would end up looking like the Death Star or Giedi Prime eventually regardless, but I'm sure we'll blow ourselves to smithereens before then. Carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynicalwoodsman Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 It relies upon your free volition. But ideally you will come around to my favored point of views. A pint to you. I'd like a free pint! Now there's something I can come around to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Looks like Redbull has their checkbook out http://www.redbull.com.au/cs/Satellite/en_AU/Article/A-mountain-to-climb-021242790000909 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choada_Boy Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I looked for the "What do you think of David's plan to rap bolt the upper headwall?" question but I couldn't find Messner's answer...utter pap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonG Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 From Lama's website: "As far as possible I would like to stick to the compressor route; I’ll refrain from bolting in rap-style. Should variations from the original compressor route be necessary for a free climbing attempt I will have to do that on lead, a quiet time intense venture for the short periods of good weather on Cerro Torre." Sounds like the lad is listening to the majority opinion out there. . . .Maybe folks can chill out a bit. He is pretty young and still figuring things out after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynicalwoodsman Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I give up. Rat poison tastes like crap too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 From Lama's website: "As far as possible I would like to stick to the compressor route; I’ll refrain from bolting in rap-style. Should variations from the original compressor route be necessary for a free climbing attempt I will have to do that on lead, a quiet time intense venture for the short periods of good weather on Cerro Torre." Sounds like the lad is listening to the majority opinion out there. . . .Maybe folks can chill out a bit. He is pretty young and still figuring things out after all. you heard heinrich, we can all chill out now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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