Peter_Puget Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 The sky is falling!...wait no it's falling tomorrow....er um......next week.......perhaps next fall....... Linky Quote
olyclimber Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 good thing we invaded that country and can pillage their oily riches. delicious creamy oil. mmmmm...couple this with the fact that science has been debunked a valid means of determining anything = I'm getting one of these sumbitches Quote
StevenSeagal Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 As long as we get their oil, I mean our oil, eventually, then all those deaths will have been worth it. God bless Halliburton and America. Quote
j_b Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 The dead-enders rejoice at the thought of squeezing that lemon one more time. Quote
prole Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 Just think, the carbonized remains of the million Iraqis that died as a direct result of the American invasion and occupation might one day become oil themselves. Irony. Quote
billcoe Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 I THINK THIS DOUBLES AS THE CHINESE OIL USEAGE CHART. Have a nice day thinking of the idea that they have pledged to get back Taiwan, by force if necessary, by 2013. Hmmm, wonder if the import/export imbalance vs the amount of lending they have done for us vis a vis the oil chart below are all connected? Nah, they aren't that smart are they? Quote
prole Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 Hmmm, wonder if the import/export imbalance vs the amount of lending they have done for us vis a vis the oil chart below are all connected? WTF? Quote
Hugh Conway Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 Yes, the Chinese who hold trillions in dollars are going to make those holdings worthless by collapsing the US economy at the same time collapsing the largest market for their crap, thereby bankrupting themselves and putting a substantial number of people out of work. Genius! Quote
StevenSeagal Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 What we need right now is a good red scare. Quote
prole Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 Yeah, the brown scare has been an unmitigated disaster. Quote
j_b Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 wonder if the import/export imbalance vs the amount of lending they have done for us vis a vis the oil chart below are all connected? Nah, they aren't that smart are they? Like how? We provide the military muscle to keep oil flowing as long as possible while China and other developing nations provide consumerism growth and the unregulated environment to drive production costs down? Quote
JosephH Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 China now holds the bulk of Iraqi oil and mineral contracts. We have immeasurably empowered the Chinese with our two trillion dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Quote
j_b Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 How long will "they" need us to do the dirty work? Time to move the headquarters to Dubai? Quote
prole Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 China now holds the bulk of Iraqi oil and mineral contracts. We have immeasurably empowered the Chinese with our two trillion dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The shifting of economic power from the US to China is looking more and more like a replay of the 19th Century rise of America at the expense of British imperialism every day. More here. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 which does what, makes you sport a perpetual woody? Quote
JosephH Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 Which discredits the entire neocon ME fantasy and shows how incompetently they wielded U.S. military might. Testosterone injections for the lot of them would have been a much cheaper way to recover their Reagan-era maasculinity. Quote
billcoe Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 China now holds the bulk of Iraqi oil and mineral contracts. We have immeasurably empowered the Chinese with our two trillion dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Do you have a link to this fact? While it's true that Oil is a global market wherein if some small producer in Iraq farts, folks in the US and China both have to smell it, and that the Iraqis have open bidding that allows China Oil and Russian firms to bid, I suspect that you are wrong in your assertion if you are measuring it by reserves, and not by having won more new bids. Quote
billcoe Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 Yes, the Chinese who hold trillions in dollars are going to make those holdings worthless by collapsing the US economy at the same time collapsing the largest market for their crap, thereby bankrupting themselves and putting a substantial number of people out of work. Genius! It was the Chinese threat to not purchase US debt that started the last chain of events that led to the US contraction. They often do things counter intuitive to a Western mind. While you may think they are above using that imbalance to do a power play, I suspect that you are wrong if that is your assertion. Quote
prole Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 which does what, makes you sport a perpetual woody? I have to admit that seeing the neighborhood bully getting kicked in the balls and getting to say "I told you so" does provoke a certain satisfaction. That's tempered, however, by the knowledge that a newly configured capitalism under Chinese or Asian hegemony is not likely to be any more democratic or less destructive than the one we're transitioning away from. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 which does what, makes you sport a perpetual woody? I have to admit that seeing the neighborhood bully getting kicked in the balls and getting to say "I told you so" does provoke a certain satisfaction. That's tempered, however, by the knowledge that a newly configured capitalism under Chinese or Asian hegemony is not likely to be any more democratic or less destructive than the one we're transitioning away from. You would make a top-notch polyeznyj idiot under Red China overlords Quote
olyclimber Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 What we need right now is a good red scare. its on! the CYBERWAR we've all been hoping for! http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2010/01/135105.htm http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html Quote
JosephH Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 Chinese companies have flocked to the post-war Iraqi oil sector. China National Petroleum Co. clinched a deal this week for the giant Halfaya oil field. CNPC already has the rights to develop Iraq's largest oil field, Rumaila, and is tasked with restoring al-Ahdba field in the eastern province of Wasit. http://www.upi.com/Science_News/Resource-Wars/2009/12/23/Iraqs-oil-headed-to-China/UPI-70641261584612/ Ditto in Afghanistan... Uneasy Engagement: China Willing to Spend Big on Afghan Commerce While the United States spends hundreds of billions of dollars fighting the Taliban and Al Qaeda here, China is securing raw material for its voracious economy. The world’s superpower is focused on security. Its fastest rising competitor concentrates on commerce. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/30/world/asia/30mine.html ...And it's 1 2 3 4 - what were we fighting for... Quote
prole Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 (edited) which does what, makes you sport a perpetual woody? I have to admit that seeing the neighborhood bully getting kicked in the balls and getting to say "I told you so" does provoke a certain satisfaction. That's tempered, however, by the knowledge that a newly configured capitalism under Chinese or Asian hegemony is not likely to be any more democratic or less destructive than the one we're transitioning away from. You would make a top-notch polyeznyj idiot under Red China overlords Have you been under a rock since the late 70's? "Red China". Keep it up, you're hilarious! Edited January 13, 2010 by prole Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 Have you been under a rock since the late 70's? "Red China". Keep it up, you're hilarious! The Chi Comms are a brutal dictatorship. A leopard doesn't change its spots. Quote
Peter_Puget Posted January 13, 2010 Author Posted January 13, 2010 Chinese companies have flocked to the post-war Iraqi oil sector. China National Petroleum Co. clinched a deal this week for the giant Halfaya oil field. CNPC already has the rights to develop Iraq's largest oil field, Rumaila, and is tasked with restoring al-Ahdba field in the eastern province of Wasit. http://www.upi.com/Science_News/Resource-Wars/2009/12/23/Iraqs-oil-headed-to-China/UPI-70641261584612/ Ditto in Afghanistan... Uneasy Engagement: China Willing to Spend Big on Afghan Commerce While the United States spends hundreds of billions of dollars fighting the Taliban and Al Qaeda here, China is securing raw material for its voracious economy. The world’s superpower is focused on security. Its fastest rising competitor concentrates on commerce. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/30/world/asia/30mine.html ...And it's 1 2 3 4 - what were we fighting for... Just to clarify that the "ditto" JH uses is not quite accurate. In Iraq the Chinese are not buying a commodity but in Afganistan they are. Quote
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