Obama Healthcare Lies

[olyclimber]

no thats your job

[JayB]

Canada ranks 30th on the same report. Odd that we're not debating the merits of adopting a Maltese Health Care System here - 'specially since it checks in 25 places ahead of Canada!

[olyclimber]

Well how many people does it server vs. Canadia? Do compare.

[StevenSeagal]

Yes we want pie charts and a full cost/benefit analysis for each of the top 50 countries by 8 AM tomorrow.

[prole]

 

Too much good stuff!

 

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[olyclimber]

what a special moment

 

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[JayB]

Well how many people does it server vs. Canadia? Do compare.

 

Let me know if this is was intended as an argument or a non-sequiter and I'll repost the figure the value that Google returns when I plug "Malta Population" into the search bar.

 

 

 

 

[prole]

This would probably be a better time for one of your monologues on the dangers of mob rule. But for some reason I don't think that's coming.

[olyclimber]

seriously. its not an argument. i'll take your orginal statement as the non-sequiter.

[JayB]

Yes we want pie charts and a full cost/benefit analysis for each of the top 50 countries by 8 AM tomorrow.

 

Why bother when you know that the US is 37th - that's right, thirty...seventh - on the WHO rankings? Any further analysis is clearly superfluous.

 

 

[JayB]

seriously. its not an argument. i'll take your statement as the non-sequiter.

 

I was actually hoping that you were going to argue that Canada is a more relevant model because the scale of a health system is more significant than the structure. Or something.

 

Disappointing.

[olyclimber]

well its more disappointing to see such an apparently bright person unable to use basic reasoning.

 

scale might be more significant than structure? no shit sherlock.

 

 

[Fairweather]

"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

 

--C.S. Lewis

[prole]

"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

 

--C.S. Lewis

 

Yes, and we're all still waiting for that smoking gun that details how any of the public option health care proposals under consideration in Congress are "tyrannical". Do let us know when you find it.

[olyclimber]

neat qoute. ergo he thought that those without a conscience were on better footing than those with one when it came to tyranny. it may be better to live without morality than live with the wrong morality. interesting stuff from the good Christian Mr. Lewis.

[olyclimber]

fucken a prole. haven't you seen the various videos from town halls? apparently Obama is Hitler and his Healthcare plan is the Final Solution. get with it.

[Fairweather]

"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

 

--C.S. Lewis

 

Yes, and we're all still waiting for that smoking gun that details how the public option health care proposals under consideration in Congress are "tyrannical". Do let us know when you find it.

 

Because it abrogates a legitimate contract I have with my health insurance provider and will ultimately force me into a long line with the likes of you and j_b.

[Fairweather]

fucken a prole. haven't you seen the various videos from town halls? apparently Obama is Hitler and his Healthcare plan is the Final Solution. get with it.

 

I guess all your spouting off about freedom was just smoke up everyone's ass...

[olyclimber]

but seriously Jay. If you're going to dis the WHO report, as least be a little more responsible in your own analysis. like steven said, give us some pie charts. make real scientific analysis rather than just being the snide and sarcastic counter point to those you despise. that my job anyway. non-sequiter.

[prole]

Because it abrogates a legitimate contract I have with my health insurance provider...

 

Oh please. Stop me if you've heard this one before: "Like your health insurance? Fine. Keep it. The public option plan is just that, an option."

 

Personally, I'd like the freedom to be able to choose the option being put forth by the Obama Administration. If anyone's rights are being infringed upon, it's the people who're un and/or underinsured who'd like to have access to some goddamn health-care.

 

But sure, if you want to carry on about the abrogation of your health care contract, I'm sure we'd all love to get some detailed clarification on that. Looking forward to it.

Edited August 19, 2009 by prole

[olyclimber]

Sorry I don't fit in with whatever point of view you're coming from there Fairweather, but I blew smoke up no ones ass. If you inhaled from whatever, I can't speak to that.

 

 

[Choada_Boy]

Fuck Malta. Look what happened to their Falcon. Died at the hands of a Maltese Death Panel.

[olyclimber]

Well they only had 27 people to deal with. The rest couldn't afford it. Fucken hippies.

[Fairweather]

 

Personally, I'd like the freedom to be able to choose the option being put forth by the Obama Administration. If anyone's rights are being infringed upon, it's the people who're un and/or underinsured who'd like to have access to some goddamn health-care.

 

 

...and, of course, have someone else pay for it. Sorry, but I would rather tolerate the present cost-shifting scheme via higher premiums than sacrifice any more freedom to government.

[Choada_Boy]

Seriously, though, do all these right-wing fucktards like Fairweather actually believe their own thoughts and oral spew? How can you be that mentally diminished and still convert oxygen into carbon dioxide?