prole Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 (edited) I'm hoping for a viable third party to rise up Like JAY-zuss? Edited August 18, 2009 by prole Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 I'm hoping for a viable third party to rise up Like the South? STFU douchebag Quote
prole Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 Okay, okay, sorry. Now seriously, what third parties out there do you like? Weren't you down with the Libertarians? Where are they on some of the issues right now? What would be an ideal 3 or 5 or 10 point platform for you right now? What is it going to take to make a third party viable in this country? Constitutional amendment? On a left-right continuum, where might a successful third party draw its founding ideas and basis for policy prescriptions? Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 Okay, okay, sorry. Now seriously, what third parties out there do you like? Weren't you down with the Libertarians? Where are they on some of the issues right now? What would be an ideal 3 or 5 or 10 point platform for you right now? What is it going to take to make a third party viable in this country? Constitutional amendment? On a left-right continuum, where might a successful third party draw its founding ideas and basis for policy prescriptions? I would look for the following: Fiscal responsibility Business friendly Limited Government Balanced, forward-thinking energy policy I would accept other positions not on the list and normally associated with the "left" if the net of the policies was better than what we have now (or under Bush). Examples include: Health care reform Environmental policies Reducing presence in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere; shift in foreign policy overall I'm not looking for a "moderate" party, riding the center, but one which stakes positions and works to fulfill their promises. If the party pisses off about 20% of the population on each side of the current political divide, that is a good thing. Also, we need a government that stops telling everyone what they want to hear, brush problems under the carpet, and bribe voters with payouts. Quote
olyclimber Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 Our only hope is to revert to the Viking Way of Life. any other choice will be doom. Quote
ivan Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 Our only hope is to revert to the Viking Way of Life. any other choice will be doom. fuck n' fight in the hope that, should you fuck n' fight hard enough, you will be accepted into an eternity of fucking n' fighting? sign me up! Quote
ivan Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 whoops, forgot to add the 3rd leg of the trinity - drinking! Quote
olyclimber Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 you can read about it here: http://www.arild-hauge.com/elife.htm however boomboxes with Led Zep tapes will be allowed as the only reference back to "modernity". Quote
olyclimber Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 Ivan, you may be interested in this bit: The Viking brewed beer and mead, and some of the rich Vikings could also have access to wine, which they procured while on trading tours or raids in Europe. The Vikings also used mushrooms, such as Psilocybe semilanceata and Amanita muscaria as intoxicants. Quote
ivan Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Ivan, you may be interested in this bit: The Viking brewed beer and mead, and some of the rich Vikings could also have access to wine, which they procured while on trading tours or raids in Europe. The Vikings also used mushrooms, such as Psilocybe semilanceata and Amanita muscaria as intoxicants. dude, have you SEEN me? 6'6" and totally unable to tan, i'm the living embodiment of the jackass nordic warrior - my blood fairly courses w/ mead and the aforementioned, including the desire to rape the horses and steal the women! Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Valhalla, I am coming! Is that the name of your sheep? Quote
olyclimber Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Girt with God's anger, Grendel came gliding over the moors beneath misty mounds. The man-scather sought someone to snatch from the high hall. He crept under cloud until he caught sight of the king's court whose gilded gables he knew at a glance. He had often haunted Hrothgar's house; but he never found before or after, hardier hall-thanes or harder luck. The joyless giant drew near the door, which swiftly swung back at a fingertip's touch though bound and fastened with fire-forged bars. The building's mouth had been broken-open, and Grendel entered with ill intent. Swollen with fury, he stalked over flagstones and looked round the manse where many men lay. An unlovely light most like a flame flashed from his eyes, flaring through the hall at young soldiers dozing shoulder to shoulder, comradely kindred. The cruel creature laughed in his murderous mind, thinking how many now living would die before the day dawned, how glutted with gore he would guzzle his fill. It was not his fate to finish the feast he foresaw that night. Quote
prole Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Okay, okay, sorry. Now seriously, what third parties out there do you like? Weren't you down with the Libertarians? Where are they on some of the issues right now? What would be an ideal 3 or 5 or 10 point platform for you right now? What is it going to take to make a third party viable in this country? Constitutional amendment? On a left-right continuum, where might a successful third party draw its founding ideas and basis for policy prescriptions? I would look for the following: Fiscal responsibility Business friendly Limited Government Balanced, forward-thinking energy policy I would accept other positions not on the list and normally associated with the "left" if the net of the policies was better than what we have now (or under Bush). Examples include: Health care reform Environmental policies Reducing presence in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere; shift in foreign policy overall I'm not looking for a "moderate" party, riding the center, but one which stakes positions and works to fulfill their promises. If the party pisses off about 20% of the population on each side of the current political divide, that is a good thing. Also, we need a government that stops telling everyone what they want to hear, brush problems under the carpet, and bribe voters with payouts. Yes, yes. All well and good, very middle of the road, moderate, centrist position. Like drowning in marshmallow. WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS, WHAT'RE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS: Quote
olyclimber Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 those people have excellent teeth. however, they would not last long as Vikings. Thus, the Viking Way would easily clear this chaffe. Quote
ivan Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Girt with God's anger, Grendel came gliding over the moors beneath misty mounds. The man-scather sought someone to snatch from the high hall. He crept under cloud until he caught sight of the king's court whose gilded gables he knew at a glance. He had often haunted Hrothgar's house; but he never found before or after, hardier hall-thanes or harder luck. The joyless giant drew near the door, which swiftly swung back at a fingertip's touch though bound and fastened with fire-forged bars. The building's mouth had been broken-open, and Grendel entered with ill intent. Swollen with fury, he stalked over flagstones and looked round the manse where many men lay. An unlovely light most like a flame flashed from his eyes, flaring through the hall at young soldiers dozing shoulder to shoulder, comradely kindred. The cruel creature laughed in his murderous mind, thinking how many now living would die before the day dawned, how glutted with gore he would guzzle his fill. It was not his fate to finish the feast he foresaw that night. cool translation - whose? it retains the essential alliteracy that resonates throughthe old english seamus heaney's version of the above begins "in off the moors, down through the mist bands God-cursed Grendel came geedily loping." Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Girt with God's anger, Grendel came gliding over the moors beneath misty mounds. The man-scather sought someone to snatch from the high hall. He crept under cloud until he caught sight of the king's court whose gilded gables he knew at a glance. He had often haunted Hrothgar's house; but he never found before or after, hardier hall-thanes or harder luck. The joyless giant drew near the door, which swiftly swung back at a fingertip's touch though bound and fastened with fire-forged bars. The building's mouth had been broken-open, and Grendel entered with ill intent. Swollen with fury, he stalked over flagstones and looked round the manse where many men lay. An unlovely light most like a flame flashed from his eyes, flaring through the hall at young soldiers dozing shoulder to shoulder, comradely kindred. The cruel creature laughed in his murderous mind, thinking how many now living would die before the day dawned, how glutted with gore he would guzzle his fill. It was not his fate to finish the feast he foresaw that night. cool translation - whose? it retains the essential alliteracy that resonates throughthe old english seamus heaney's version of the above begins "in off the moors, down through the mist bands God-cursed Grendel came geedily loping." Beowulf if ghey Quote
ivan Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Beowulf if ghey so were the spartans - they kicked ass too Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Beowulf if ghey so were the spartans - they kicked licked ass too fixed it for ya Quote
ivan Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Beowulf if ghey so were the spartans - they kicked licked ass too fixed it for ya anticipated that even as i was typing - figured they were both appropriate, so good on ya! Quote
olyclimber Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Girt with God's anger, Grendel came gliding over the moors beneath misty mounds. The man-scather sought someone to snatch from the high hall. He crept under cloud until he caught sight of the king's court whose gilded gables he knew at a glance. He had often haunted Hrothgar's house; but he never found before or after, hardier hall-thanes or harder luck. The joyless giant drew near the door, which swiftly swung back at a fingertip's touch though bound and fastened with fire-forged bars. The building's mouth had been broken-open, and Grendel entered with ill intent. Swollen with fury, he stalked over flagstones and looked round the manse where many men lay. An unlovely light most like a flame flashed from his eyes, flaring through the hall at young soldiers dozing shoulder to shoulder, comradely kindred. The cruel creature laughed in his murderous mind, thinking how many now living would die before the day dawned, how glutted with gore he would guzzle his fill. It was not his fate to finish the feast he foresaw that night. cool translation - whose? it retains the essential alliteracy that resonates throughthe old english seamus heaney's version of the above begins "in off the moors, down through the mist bands God-cursed Grendel came geedily loping." Beowulf if ghey nice lisp Quote
No. 13 Baby Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 The Starting Nine: CF Bobby Jindal 2B Glenn Beck 3B Newt Gingrich 1B Rush Limbaugh RF Joe the Plumber RF Michele Bachmann SS Mike Huckabee C Ashley Todd P Sarah Palin I don't think these morons are going to make it too far into the postseason... You'll have to make room for the new face of GOP political insight... [video:youtube]oKwgV8PAAYE Quote
JayB Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 it appears he, if not Frank/Pelosi et.al., have for the time being scaled back ambitions due to the conservative objections while pushing ahead so that some reforms can be accomplished. this is what scares me: some form of "compromise". If there isn't a public option that ISN'T tied to private insurance costs, then might as well shoot the dog now. i seriously can't believe we even have these arguments when we are the LAST industrialized country without universal health care (and outspend everyone by a wide margin AND rank 37th, 30fuckin7th, in WHO's country ranking for med care). The WHO also ranks Malta 5th, and Denmark 34th. Morocco 29th and South Korea 58th. Et...cetera. Naturally, I don't expect people who endlessly cite the WHO report to spend much time worrying about the methods and metrics that the WHO uses to compile the said rankings. Quote
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