BenWA Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 ...compared to other climbing areas around the country? Do you think the grades (in general) are soft? Sandbag? Just about right? I haven't climbed at many other places so I'm just curious about what the general consensus is, or if there even is a consensus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 soft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainmatt Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Soft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crillz Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Some climbs are soft by 2 number grades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Softer grades than any place I have ever climbed by a large margin. Subtract two to three grades to get the Tahquitz equivalent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxtrax Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 soft like a baby's butt, exceptions would be the cave and select routes at amazonia and nevermind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 soft soft soft soft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenWA Posted June 4, 2009 Author Share Posted June 4, 2009 exceptions would be the cave and select routes at amazonia and nevermind. That's sort or what I was thinking [hoping]. I would hope at least that most of the .11's and .12's at nevermind and amazonia are pretty legit...?? I definitely have climbed some routes that were laughably overgraded (like the mossy .10d at amazonia's right side which felt more like 5.9). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) Ego boosting, but not in all cases. For example, Negatherion, Overture, Architect Rally, and Primus all felt comparable to easy 11s at x32 and Index sport routes in the Country. Comparing sport to trad ratings is useless IMHO. Edited June 4, 2009 by Rad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 ...actually, all other areas are massively underrated...Ex 38 is DA' STANDUD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 How about comparing ratings among gyms? Pretty wide range there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 i find pink is always harder than blue and red is f-ing S I C K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 i find pink is always harder than kevbone and red is f-ing S I C K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaoleung Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Soft if you're hard core like me. But if you put on a few pounds and need an ego stroke cuz you're feeling like the climbing gods are frowning on you, I'd say it's solid. So... Ellie's Sweet Kiss is great for the stroking. Anyone know what the tiny little roof is just below the deck from Ellie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Don't worry so much about the ratings. Good routes are good fun and bad routes are crappy regardless of what people have rated them. Think less, climb more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miladugga Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 I agree with Rad, you'll have more fun. Besides, sometimes my ego likes to be stroked, especially after it gets spanked on some 5.7 crack at Leavenworth. Ellies Sweet Kiss is a fun climb whatever the grade, and on a nice sunny day so is the 2 pitch soft 10a slab around the corner. On the other hand, maybe it was the end of the day and I was spent, but I thought the 2 10a climbs down the hill from Ellies (girls rule?) were real 10a's. Different developers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilookeddown Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Using Index as the standard (in WA) X38 is generally 2 grades off with some exceptions. (no disrespect to the original developers) The problem I have found is you need to grade any new routes consistent with the other routes in the same area to stay consistent. BTW Ellies and girls rule were the same developer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_leclerc Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Wow.. another thread all about grades and ego's.... pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenWA Posted June 5, 2009 Author Share Posted June 5, 2009 pathetic. I'm glad for you that you are above everybody. Congratulations, you're awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrogdortheBurninator Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 I climb all over the place, in grades, not location. I can flash V5s and climb V8 boulders after a day of roped climbing. I have nearly 'soloed' 5.13a above a trapeze net (young blood in Squamish) and yet fell leading 'Apron Strings' a 10b the same day on my OS attempt. If I am climbing a 5.12 trad route and I am falling a lot I usually just pull on a peice of gear to get to the top.. unless its single pitch. Whatever, I dont care. I just enjoy myself... http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=2137963;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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