Hello Cold War II

[StevenSeagal]

Um...yeah. This is happening pretty quickly:

 

Hot War?

[kevbone]

WARSAW, Poland - An agreement that will allow the United States to install a missile defense battery in Poland exposes the ex-communist nation to an attack, a Russian general said Friday.

 

 

And how is that diferent than Russia wanting to use Cuba?

[akhalteke]

They did it last time because we put some in Turkey. They want to use Cuba this time, because we want to put missiles in Poland. Get it? That is how these lovely "political disagreements" get excalated and "Cuban Missile Crises" get started.

[glassgowkiss]

WARSAW, Poland - An agreement that will allow the United States to install a missile defense battery in Poland exposes the ex-communist nation to an attack, a Russian general said Friday.

 

 

And how is that diferent than Russia wanting to use Cuba?

 

now what the fuck was russia doing in cuba in the first place? second- how many times did poland attack russia? Zero!. now show of hands, how many times did russia attack poland? well, looking at history books they occupied our country for over 200 years and attacked poland 2 times in 20th century (1919 and 1939). now who is an aggressor?

[PaulB]

As a side effect, US access to the ISS may be at risk after 2011: Russian Invasion of Georgia Imperils U.S. Access to Space Station.

[mkporwit]

WARSAW, Poland - An agreement that will allow the United States to install a missile defense battery in Poland exposes the ex-communist nation to an attack, a Russian general said Friday.

 

 

And how is that diferent than Russia wanting to use Cuba?

 

now what the fuck was russia doing in cuba in the first place? second- how many times did poland attack russia? Zero!. now show of hands, how many times did russia attack poland? well, looking at history books they occupied our country for over 200 years and attacked poland 2 times in 20th century (1919 and 1939). now who is an aggressor?

 

Bob, the Soviets were in Cuba because the US was in Turkey. The Cuban Missile Crisis was the public side of things -- the Soviets withdrew their missiles. In exchange, the US quietly dismantled their infrastructure in Turkey. That part doesn't get so much press. Scott mentioned that in his post already.

 

As for when the last time was that we attacked Russia... just as a historical curiosity... Hmmm, if you count Poles fighting on the side of Napoleon it was 1811 or thereabouts. Otherwise, I think you might need to go back all the way to 1607-1608, when Poland occupied Moscow and placed a puppet on the throne...

[fear_and_greed]

On the bright side, the war in Iraq must be over as I can't find a single headline on Google or Yahoo.

[KaskadskyjKozak]

On the bright side, the war in Iraq must be over as I can't find a single headline on Google or Yahoo.

 

STFU, Canuck. As if you have any real stake in either conflict.

 

 

[akhalteke]

On the bright side, the war in Iraq must be over as I can't find a single headline on Google or Yahoo.

 

STFU, Canuck. As if you have any real stake in either conflict.

 

 

Sure he does. If the US's military were to fall, he would be so fucked, he would taste latex. The West Ed mall has more submarines than their entire navy. Why? Because they think the big brother that they rue so much will always protect them. We'll see about that...

[PaulB]

STFU, Canuck. As if you have any real stake in either conflict.

Perhaps, but we do have people dying in Afghanistan, arguably in support of the US stake there.

 

The West Ed mall has more submarines than their entire navy.

I was in the WEM last week, its fleet has been decommissioned.

[ZimZam]

Russia's military doctrine sanctions the use of nuclear weapons "against the allies of countries having nuclear weapons if they in some way help them." [including strategic defense systems]

 

STFU you bellicose drunk babushka huggin' fool. You know damn well that ain't happenin'.

 

On different note. Time to invest in defense industry stocks if that's your proclivity.

 

 

[olyclimber]

the cold war. where did we leave off????

 

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20040628/schel

 

 

i predict a rise in cybercrime.

 

 

 

[murraysovereign]

WARSAW, Poland - An agreement that will allow the United States to install a missile defense battery in Poland exposes the ex-communist nation to an attack, a Russian general said Friday.

 

 

And how is that diferent than Russia wanting to use Cuba?

 

One important qualitative difference: the Russian missiles in Cuba (and the corresponding US missiles in Turkey) were offensive weapons, designed to attack targets in the United States and Russia, respectively. The batteries proposed for Poland are defensive, intended to intercept incoming missiles rather than to initiate an attack on Russia or anywhere else.

 

Offensive weapons based in a neighbouring country are justifiable cause for concern, as they leave you vulnerable to attack. Defensive weapons based in a neighbouring country are cause for concern mainly to the extend that they reduce your ability to attack your neighbour.

[akhalteke]

Defensive weapons based in a neighbouring country are cause for concern mainly to the extend that they reduce your ability to attack your neighbour.

 

Leading to the question as to why Russia would be so angry at us placing them there.