kevbone Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 After years of not really being sure what the difference is I think I have found my definition finally. IMO conservatives care about themselves only. And Libera’s try to take care of everybody. For example: I work with this total right wing nut case, (I like her as a person) she hates Obama for many reasons but one thing she said was “Obama wants to nationalize health care”. I responded by saying what about those without healthcare. She responded “if you want health care, go get a job”. I also live near a serious republican (who is a good friend) who told me the other day he was not in favor of OR and WA building a new bridge over the Columbia River to ease bad traffic, basically he works in Vancouver and rarely goes into Portland and does not want to pay for something he would not use. It is this kind of selfish attitude that comes from the right…..IMO. Always thinking about themselves first, never about the big picture. I will admit that the liberals don’t always get if right (no pun intended), but at least they try to look out for ALL instead of the few. I know some Dems who live in the Couv and they don’t work in Portland. They are in favor of the new bridge just because it makes sense for everybody, not just themselves. God damn republicans always holding us back…….. This of course is my personal opinion…..and if you disagree….you are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lI1|1! Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 kevbone - i'm a liberal and i think your an idiot. now this probably actually fits your hypothesis when i say if you would just STFU it would be good for everyone. (unless of course my closet conservative side selfishly wants a personal respite from your drivel.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 obviously, kevbeenboned was not beaten enough as a child for the rest of us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 but i think his momma dropped him on his head maybe once too many times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 kevbone - i'm a liberal and i think your an idiot. now this probably actually fits your hypothesis when i say if you would just STFU it would be good for everyone. (unless of course my closet conservative side selfishly wants a personal respite from your drivel.) You are wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 you're conservative??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 no, he's a snaffle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 What is a snaffle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 What is a snaffle? you're a f-ing moron, boner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtn_mouse Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 This is a snaffle Kevbone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 What is a snaffle? you're a f-ing moron, boner We are all moron's....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 yeah...but you take it to a professional level... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Is this a troll? Conservative != Republican Liberal != Democrat The democratic party and the republican party are just groups of people. Liberalism and Conservatism are political ideologies. The Republican party was once more liberal than it is now, and the Democratic party was once more conservative. These things change. There are some Democrats who are more conservative than some Republicans, and there are some Republicans who are more liberal than some Democrats. The terms for one's party and one's political ideology are not interchangeable. For example, I am a liberal, but I'm NOT a member of the democratic party. The difference between the two ideologies is not a mystery, Kev. Haven't you ever taken any poly sci classes? Many conservatives are actually quite liberal and don't realize it. Of course, they'd likely never admit it, because some people have fostered divisiveness within the country by encouraging the use of these two terms as insults. I think this is wrong. I do not think there is anything wrong with the concept of conservatism, per se. I don't agree with most of the concepts of conservatism, but I think it's wrong to call them selfish, or always thinking about themselves. You can be a patriot and a conservative at the same time, you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhalteke Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 You can be a patriot and a conservative at the same time, you know. I'm calling bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 You can be a patriot and a conservative at the same time, you know. I'm calling bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 You can be a patriot and a conservative at the same time, you know. I'm calling bullshit. I'll call your bullshit and raise you a pile of pig sh*t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 You can be a patriot and a conservative at the same time, you know. you know you can be pro life and pro choice at the same time! What I dont get is when a pro lifer supports the occupation in Iraq which is shrouded in death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 What I dont get is when a pro lifer supports the occupation in Iraq which is shrouded in death. You need to open your mind, my friend. Don't you think it's possible that some people believe the human-cost of the war in Iraq is worth the freedom they perceive is being protected? I know you disagree with that concept, but if you can get off the soap-box for a few seconds and imagine that somebody COULD feel like that, then maybe you could understand the difference (in their mind) between abortion and the war in Iraq. It's not really a complicated concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 Don't you think it's possible that some people believe the human-cost of the war in Iraq is worth the freedom they perceive is being protected? Yes I think its possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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akhalteke Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 You can be a patriot and a conservative at the same time, you know. you know you can be pro life and pro choice at the same time! What I dont get is when a pro lifer supports the occupation in Iraq which is shrouded in death. You are a fucking idiot Kev. Even I can see why liberals. Believe what they do. Theoretically, it is a very nice idea, but I just don't see the practicality in it. Both ideologies are good in an of themselves, though most forms are permeated with the droppings from the good idea fairy tinkering and also the baisic element of human greed. Fucking, I feel that sometimes violence IS the answer and when you just can't talk to someone, you can either walk away or hit them in the mouth. Sometimes, walking away just inst an option. I haven't slept more than 5 hours in the last week, and I think I am making a more cohenernt and logical argument than you. Open your pea-brain. Life is a motherfucker and sometimes bad shit happens. As long as there is human greed, there will always be those that try to manipulate the system using whatever means they know how. If this weren't the case, I would be the first motherfucker to be a socialist. Thing is, people are fucking assholes and only think about themselves and will do anything up to and including rape and murder to realize their own dreams. Personally, I believe that "my right to swing my fist ends at your nose." but sometimes life doesn't always work out the way you wanna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 SOME people are fucking assholes and only think about themselves and will do anything up to and including rape and murder to realize their own dreams. Fixed that quote for ya S. Catch a quick cat nap and you'll feel better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 hmmm....i was always raised with the idea that you can't hit first but you should hit last. i guess that doesn't work with the giant group hug life philosophy of kevbone eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 hmmm....i was always raised with the idea that you can't hit first but you should hit last. i guess that doesn't work with the giant group hug life philosophy of kevbone eh? kevbone hits first, last, and any point in between... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 hmmm....i was always raised with the idea that you can't hit first but you should hit last. i guess that doesn't work with the giant group hug life philosophy of kevbone eh? You need to read these (my favorites are in bold italics): US Marine Corps Rules of Engagement 1. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns. 2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap. Life is expensive. 3. Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss. 4. If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough nor using cover correctly. 5. Move away from your attacker. Distance is your friend. (Lateral and diagonal movement are preferred.) 6. If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a long gun and a friend with a long gun. 7. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived. 8. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading, and running. 9. Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on "pucker factor" than the inherent accuracy of the gun. 9.5. Use a gun that works EVERY TIME. "All skill is in vain when an Angel pisses in the flintlock of your musket." 10. Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty. 11. Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose. 12. Have a plan. 13. Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work. 14. Use cover or concealment as much as possible. The visible target should be in FRONT of your gun. 15. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours. 16. Don't drop your guard. 17. Always tactical load and threat scan 360 degrees. 18. Watch their hands. Hands kill. (In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them). 19. Decide to be aggressive ENOUGH, quickly ENOUGH. 20. The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get. 21. Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet. 22. Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one. 23. Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation. 24. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun the caliber of which does not start with a "4." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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