billcoe Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 OK OK I have it. The answer to Blakes question can be found at this link, as I pointed out, JH just bought one of these. Do that math. Click right here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendershot Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Good call Billcoe! If you "debate" the weight, it's worth it. I would choose synthetic insulation for something like the sweater so I could wear it under a shell and not have to worry about it getting wet from sweat and the warmth won't be effected as much by the compression of the layers. Some might prefer the better compressibility of down. I have to second hafilax on this one. I have a functional Montbell Thermawrap that stuff and clips very nice to my harness but for more serious outings I'll go with DAS Parka. Have the primaloft absorb the moisture worry about more important things like climbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Bill, yeah, I was wearing it climbing up to the girls during the rescue and it was nice to have. Once I got up to them I was bordering on overheated with the UnderArmor layers I had on underneath it so one of the girls got the steaming warm down sweater and was pretty glad to get it. I looked at a couple of these things before forcing myself to buy the Patagonia one, but I didn't think to check either FF or Montbell's (bummer). I have to admit to being a bit shocked at the rate it sheds down (fast) and I wouldn't count on it being at all abrasion-resistant, at least not by Red Rocks standards. I also bought one of there 'Houdini' packs and added gear slings to it. It was also supposed to be abrasion-resistant with 30-denier fabric on the back surface of the pack. Well, two days before the Oak Canyon epic we had a twelve hour near-epic romp up Mt. Wilson and the Houdini pack was thoroughly sliced and diced by the time we made it back to the cars, so I don't think I'd have much faith in the durability of 20-denier fabric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamsbud Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 All I can say is go synthetic and save a duck (or five hundred) Insert sob here....http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/images/icons/default/cry.gif cry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 You should be able to return it eh? BTW, last year Ujahn bought a new Helly Hansen Polertec shirt just to do Epinephrine. Afterwards the back of it was shredded. One climb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 slopeside fashion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Show me a better garment for both mending fence posts on the Wyoming ranch, chopping wood at the cabin, AND cradling a coffee in Ballard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Show me a better garment for both mending fence posts on the Wyoming ranch, chopping wood at the cabin, AND cradling a coffee in Ballard. http://www.nau.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 NAU NAU NAU DUDE, TOO CONFUSING OF A WEB SITE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 There is a bar in N PDX that has a sign outside that say: "5 dollar cover. Add a dollar for each piece of patagonia clothing you are wearing" I laugh my ass off everytime... one of these days I need to take a pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hafilax Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 http://www.nau.com I hadn't heard of them before. A quick search turned up this article from June 2007. Made up of ex Patagonia, Marmot and Nike people. Is the stuff any good? What's their best piece? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Is the stuff any good? What's their best piece? with their current sale the wool long underwear is "reasonably" priced. It's all very well made.... just not really designed for skiing..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 slopeside fashion They've got Moon Boots for sale here. :lmao: :lmao: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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