troubleski Posted October 30, 2002 Posted October 30, 2002 Ok... so they are pretty pricy... but does anyone have any thoughts on the Acr'Teryx Alpha Comp SV? I am looking for a main outter layer for skiing and climbing. What do y'all think? -Troub Quote
bolt_clipper Posted November 4, 2002 Posted November 4, 2002 Dude, go to REI or someplace, and see how easy it is to suck air through the fabric. This gives an indication of windproofness. I did this to some Arc'teryx comp jacket and the Scholler stuff is as windproof as mesh! Buy a Powershield shell or a Patagonia Dimension. Quote
pindude Posted November 4, 2002 Posted November 4, 2002 quote: Originally posted by bolt clipper: Dude, go to REI or someplace, and see how easy it is to suck air through the fabric. Dude, for this application, don't suck, BLOW! Quote
Beck Posted November 4, 2002 Posted November 4, 2002 pinduder, there's lots more to it than sucking on fleece.- for a detailed comparision of all your options, stop by and see me at work- Quote
pindude Posted November 4, 2002 Posted November 4, 2002 I don't think I wanna know all the options! Quote
Beck Posted November 4, 2002 Posted November 4, 2002 funny pindude, you're not my type- dude, the alphacomp sv doesn't even have HOOD so if you're considering this as you're ALL AROUND jacket you're seriously misinformed, and you don't want to go talk to a gear head in an outdoor shop about it. whatever. Quote
allison Posted November 4, 2002 Posted November 4, 2002 Rumor going around is that Schoeller Dynamic is less durable than other softshell fabrics ....maybe I read it here, can't remember...anyhow, anyone have this experience? Quote
Dru Posted November 4, 2002 Posted November 4, 2002 quote: Originally posted by allison: Rumor going around is that Schoeller Dynamic is less durable than other softshell fabrics ....maybe I read it here, can't remember...anyhow, anyone have this experience? Yeah you read it in the post above yours! Quote
allthumbs Posted November 4, 2002 Posted November 4, 2002 Bwahahaha Way to be on top of your game, Allisin! Quote
allison Posted November 5, 2002 Posted November 5, 2002 No, the post above mine speaks of avoiding Dynamic like the plague...I was asking about durability. You guys are idiots. Quote
allthumbs Posted November 5, 2002 Posted November 5, 2002 Now goddammit Allisin, ya went and hurt my feelings. Why do you have to say mean and hurtful things? Quote
Beck Posted November 5, 2002 Posted November 5, 2002 ...so I'm anwsering questions about the various softshells, and softshell vs. hard, at work the other day, letting him know what his options were with the different fabrics. I'm trying to get the guy into a new softshell coat for the winter. He's all ears, and after a few minutes he breaks in with something like, "man, you have just given THE BEST presentation on shell technology I have ever seen! Consise, accurate, all the options presented objectively, right on the money! If there were guys like you in every store... do you mind if I mention you in an upcoming meeting?" Dude was a Gore spy, checking up on the shops. So I don't know it all, but I'll try not to give you any bad beta on non-technical gear issues, promise. [ 11-04-2002, 05:29 PM: Message edited by: Beck ] Quote
Figger_Eight Posted November 5, 2002 Posted November 5, 2002 Having a softshell jacket in a marine climate (as your main jacket) is dumb. Quote
iain Posted November 5, 2002 Posted November 5, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: ... or items you peruse here! Is that the game? ... or spray you masticate here! oh and I wear pants occasionally too shred, they do rock Quote
Figger_Eight Posted November 5, 2002 Posted November 5, 2002 Oh yeah...pants for sure. I have the Black Diamond Schoellers. I never leave home without them. Quote
Beck Posted November 5, 2002 Posted November 5, 2002 8' s right about the prime piece/marine climate, also, shred maximus is correct, soft shells market selling price point is expected to drop significantly in the next 18 months (three buying cycles) due to "dumping" by fabric manufacturers, akin to the goretex debacle in the last 3 years brought on by TNF's blanketed, aggressive pursuit of a market they didn't deserve to dominate. exciting new technology in soft shells this season, LOTS of options, still becomes the piece you will wear 75-90% of the time, even in this climate. [ 11-04-2002, 10:59 PM: Message edited by: Beck ] Quote
layton Posted November 5, 2002 Posted November 5, 2002 There nothing as misinforming as talking to someone at an outdoor gear shop. Quote
Dru Posted November 5, 2002 Posted November 5, 2002 ...except info you read on bulletin boards. Quote
Dru Posted November 5, 2002 Posted November 5, 2002 yeah cause this site is SOOOO obvuiously not a bulletin board. Or you did you think i meant the bulletin board in gear store. FOR SALE ROPE. GREAT SHAPE HARDLY EVER USED. NO BATTERY ACID STAINS AT ALL. NEVER HELD A FALL. Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted November 5, 2002 Posted November 5, 2002 ... or items you peruse here! Is that the game? Quote
Dustin_B Posted November 5, 2002 Posted November 5, 2002 quote: Originally posted by troubleski: Ok... so they are pretty pricy... but does anyone have any thoughts on the Acr'Teryx Alpha Comp SV? I am looking for a main outter layer for skiing and climbing. What do y'all think? -Troub If I could only own one jacket it would be the Arc'teryx Gamma SV (actually it would probably be a hard shell, but thats beside the point). I've used it for everything (skiing, climbing, "on the town"). It is pricy ($240) and if I had paid that much it would have still been more than worth it. The only drawback I can think of is it doesn't have pit zips, but most of the soft shells I've seen don't. I don't know about the Acr'Teryx Alpha Comp SV, but if it resembles the Gamma SV, then buy it. Quote
jordop Posted November 5, 2002 Posted November 5, 2002 Avoid Schoeller Dynamic like the Plague: dryskin or powershield Quote
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