Jim Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 I've gone through the posts on tents and I'm still not sure of the utility of a single wall. I spent two months in Patagonia in a Bibler Eldorado, but without the vestibule there's no room to get stuff out of the rain or cook. Why not just go with a lightweight double wall like a Kelty Vortex 2 give the cost of single walls and the need for some storage space in the rainy NW. Suggestions? I've also looked at Hillebergs but they don't look to stable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 Hilleberg tents rock. They are bomb proof. Why not just take bivi sacs and a tarp if you want to go light? Personally I think singlewalls are the shit for Arctic/high altitude but conditions that are good for them are never to be found in the PNW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted June 25, 2002 Author Share Posted June 25, 2002 I've done the bivy thing quite often, but on those longer trips it's nice to get outta the sideways rain. Yea, I'm not sure the single wall thing is the way to go in the PNW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceIceBaby Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 Do the Eldorado with ID Silshlter (that’s how I use it) plenty room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted June 25, 2002 Author Share Posted June 25, 2002 Ice - What's da Shilshelter. You must be a Gunkie, eh? My old stomppin grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseur Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 Why not get the vestibule for the single wall? Single walls save alot of weight and are just generally all around cool, which is the most important thing anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceIceBaby Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Jim: Ice - What's da Shilshelter. Here you go SilShelter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodchester Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 I like to use the small single walls for light/fast climbs...i.e. traversing the Winds River Range...and for one or two day climbs in the Cascades. They are light and compact. I have to say that if I was sitting in a camp for any length of time, say in Patagonia, Alaska, etc. I would prefer going with the roomy double wall...and dealing with the weight. I would go nuts in my Bibler for two months....or even two weeks. Each have applications and limitations. [ 06-26-2002, 11:36 AM: Message edited by: Rodchester ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layton Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 Poseur- What mountain is behind you. Anyone spy a sweet line? My guess is Mt.Dickey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseur Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 That's not me, I copied it from the ID website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 quote: Originally posted by michael_layton: Poseur- What mountain is behind you. Anyone spy a sweet line? My guess is Mt.Dickey. Its mount Si. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 nonsense there's not a cougar track to be seen there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard_Pumpington Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 You can't compare a Bibler tent to a Kelty tent; it's like comparing a Porsche to a Yugo. If your going to buy a double wall tent, go with a company that has proven themselves in the mountains (ie. North Face,Bibler,Mountain Hardware). One company that makes a great proven tent, is Wild Country. The "Mountain" tent is a 2 person tent,has a large vestibule on both ends and has similar weights to most other 2 person double wall tents. Think about weather or not you want to potentially hang your ass out on the line, with a Kelty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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