Double vs single wall (again)

[Jim]

I've gone through the posts on tents and I'm still not sure of the utility of a single wall. I spent two months in Patagonia in a Bibler Eldorado, but without the vestibule there's no room to get stuff out of the rain or cook. Why not just go with a lightweight double wall like a Kelty Vortex 2 give the cost of single walls and the need for some storage space in the rainy NW. Suggestions? I've also looked at Hillebergs but they don't look to stable.

[Dru]

Hilleberg tents rock. They are bomb proof.

 

Why not just take bivi sacs and a tarp if you want to go light?

 

Personally I think singlewalls are the shit for Arctic/high altitude but conditions that are good for them are never to be found in the PNW.

[Jim]

I've done the bivy thing quite often, but on those longer trips it's nice to get outta the sideways rain. Yea, I'm not sure the single wall thing is the way to go in the PNW.

[IceIceBaby]

Do the Eldorado with ID Silshlter (that’s how I use it) plenty room

[Jim]

Ice - What's da Shilshelter. You must be a Gunkie, eh? My old stomppin grounds.

[Poseur]

Why not get the vestibule for the single wall? Single walls save alot of weight and are just generally all around cool, which is the most important thing anyway.

 

[IceIceBaby]

quote:

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Originally posted by Jim:

Ice - What's da Shilshelter.

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Here you go SilShelter

[Rodchester]

I like to use the small single walls for light/fast climbs...i.e. traversing the Winds River Range...and for one or two day climbs in the Cascades. They are light and compact.

 

I have to say that if I was sitting in a camp for any length of time, say in Patagonia, Alaska, etc. I would prefer going with the roomy double wall...and dealing with the weight.

 

I would go nuts in my Bibler for two months....or even two weeks.

 

Each have applications and limitations.

 

[ 06-26-2002, 11:36 AM: Message edited by: Rodchester ]

[layton]

Poseur-

 

What mountain is behind you. Anyone spy a sweet line? My guess is Mt.Dickey.

[Poseur]

That's not me, I copied it from the ID website.

[Dru]

quote:

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Originally posted by michael_layton:

Poseur-

 

What mountain is behind you. Anyone spy a sweet line? My guess is Mt.Dickey.

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Its mount Si.

[iain]

nonsense there's not a cougar track to be seen there.

[Richard_Pumpington]

You can't compare a Bibler tent to a Kelty tent;

it's like comparing a Porsche to a Yugo. If your

going to buy a double wall tent, go with a company

that has proven themselves in the mountains (ie.

North Face,Bibler,Mountain Hardware). One company

that makes a great proven tent, is Wild Country.

The "Mountain" tent is a 2 person tent,has a large

vestibule on both ends and has similar weights to

most other 2 person double wall tents. Think about

weather or not you want to potentially hang your

ass out on the line, with a Kelty.