EWolfe Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 If someone is there video-taping, photographing, or otherwise engaged in observation or documentation of said climb. Free-soloing means just you and the rock. Discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hefeweizen Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 So if you're climbing the Regular NW Face on Half Dome, with nuthin but shoes, chalk bag, and shorts, and someone is watching you through a telescope from Touloumne Meadows somewhere, you aren't actually free soloing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Did you ask a question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hefeweizen Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Did you ask a question? It was an example posed as a question, rhetorically. Hang on let me get out my thesaurus... My position is that if someone else is watching you it doesn't negate the experience that you are climbing without the use of protection. Hence: free-soloing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Freesoloing Free = to climb free of aid solo = to climb with only yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashw_justin Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 If someone is there video-taping, photographing, Discuss. It's only freesoloing if you're not getting paid. Otherwise it's feesoloing, cuz it isn't free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Trippett Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 why can't they make the planes out of the same material as the black box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hefeweizen Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Freesoloing Free = to climb free of aid solo = to climb with only yourself Ok, so free climbing while placing protection and being self belayed is freesoloing as long as you're by yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underworld Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 what about videos of a 1st ascent of an unclimbed peak... and they are shooting down at the climbers. wtf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 I like the PBR picture. ----------------------- Just to throw this into the mix: What do you all think about photographers at the top of the cliff with bights of rope ready to toss down to the soloist if they start to sketch? And for roped leading, the British gritsone climbers are notorious for this when they are trying to headpoint such routes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 And for roped leading What is "roped leading"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 The gritstone photos are 99.9% of the time posed after the FA with the climber back on the route with either hidden pro at the waist or a toprope hidden around the arete out of sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 change the word "photographer" to read "friend" at time of ascent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 You mean like when Earl Wiggan and his buddies hiked down to the bottom of the Black Canyon to reconoiter it then split up to check out different areas. Later they look over and see him FREE FU*KING SOLOING Scenic Cruise, not only bags the second ascent, free solo, but f*s up, gets off route, and does a First Ascent variation that goes at 5.10D. No rope, on sight. His buddies looked over and see him way the hell over there....they gape open mouth. Not a free solo? discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 why can't they make the planes out of the same material as the black box? For the exact same reasons people freesolo: 1. too heavy with all the extra material/equipment required 2. too expensive to have all that extra material/equipment Good question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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