To the fathers......

[high_on_rock]

Beautiful kid. Hard to believe that someone so innocient will someday be spraying pick up lines on the internet.

[ericb]

Thanks all....I think he's pretty beautiful, but I'm pretty biased. Now if he could just figure out that he's supposed to sleep between 2 and 5 AM......

[kevbone]

Ericb......nice job on the 5 hour stint the other night! Or I should congradulate your child. When Miles was about 2 weeks old he suprised us by a 5 hour jont.......we were so happy....

 

Miles at the park on Sat....

 

[ken4ord]

Ha, you poor suckers with sleepless nights. Simone right from the start slept a solid 5-7 hours with out waking. The first night she slept on my chest the whole night. Now-a-days she is 11 months and now sleeping 10 hours straight 8pm-6am. It is awesome.

[kevbone]

Wow....good for you!

 

See, Miles sleeps through the night but wakes up to nurse about 6 to 8 times. He does not wake up enought to want to play......he just kind of fusses about until a boob or bottle gets placed in his mouth. The quicker that happenes the quicker he goes back to sleep.

[ken4ord]

A friend of mine used to say for all three of her children that the most important thing to do in order get a good night sleep is to stick them on the boob as much as possible while they are awake. She believe that was the key to restful sleep for all three children. I tend to think it is more luck than anything. Simone usually quite hungry in the morning though it is really funny, when she sees the bottle in the morning she has sort of Bevias and Butthead sort of laugh, heh heh heh.

[kevbone]

My family and I are going to Breitenbush this weekend to camp with Miles for the first time. We are attending a natural parenting program......how neet.

 

Anyone been there? This will be my first trip there.

[ericb]

My family and I are going to Breitenbush this weekend to camp with Miles for the first time. We are attending a natural parenting program......how neet.

 

Anyone been there? This will be my first trip there.

 

O no.....does that mean you guys are going to be breastfeeding him until he's eight?

[Dechristo]

a natural parenting program......how neet.

 

 

As opposed to Robot parenting?

[kevbone]

My family and I are going to Breitenbush this weekend to camp with Miles for the first time. We are attending a natural parenting program......how neet.

 

Anyone been there? This will be my first trip there.

 

O no.....does that mean you guys are going to be breastfeeding him until he's eight?

 

God .....I sure hope not.....but its not up to me.

[ken4ord]

My family and I are going to Breitenbush this weekend to camp with Miles for the first time. We are attending a natural parenting program......how neet.

 

Anyone been there? This will be my first trip there.

 

We have taken Simone camping 5 times already (4 times in the Akagera game park and once on Lake Kivu), she like's it alot. The only thing is that we are realizing our two person tent is too small for three of us.

 

She is a little jet setter too. She flew back to Rwanda from the states, has flown to Ethiopia and Tanzania in her first 6 months. Next it will be back home for a month, Mexico to visit relatives and hopefully we'll spend Christmas in Mozambique.

[kevbone]

Just got back from Breitenbush......that place is powerful. Any of you ever been there? I will be going back.

[Jason_Martin]

My family and I are going to Breitenbush this weekend to camp with Miles for the first time. We are attending a natural parenting program......how neet.

 

Anyone been there? This will be my first trip there.

 

We have taken Simone camping 5 times already (4 times in the Akagera game park and once on Lake Kivu), she like's it alot. The only thing is that we are realizing our two person tent is too small for three of us.

 

She is a little jet setter too. She flew back to Rwanda from the states, has flown to Ethiopia and Tanzania in her first 6 months. Next it will be back home for a month, Mexico to visit relatives and hopefully we'll spend Christmas in Mozambique.

 

What's the youngest you guys took your kids camping...?

[kevbone]

Miles is 9 months old and went camping for the first time this last weekend.

[dberdinka]

Hi Jason. We took our daughter car camping around 3 months and backpacking at 11 months. It's fun but you gotta be on it 100% of the time. The backpacking is tough, no one sleeps that well, car camping better...because they can sleep in a porta-crib. Honestly day hikes seem to keep everyone the happiest. Are you joining the crowd?

 

 

 

[kevbone]

That is a great picture......thanks for sharing.

[ericb]

Very cute.....I can see the BD Marketing Collateral now...."Whether it's 40mph gusts, or an 18 month old toddler you are faced with...."

[dberdinka]

More cute baby photos from backpacking in Zion

 

 

 

 

[Jason_Martin]

Hi Jason. We took our daughter car camping around 3 months and backpacking at 11 months. It's fun but you gotta be on it 100% of the time. The backpacking is tough, no one sleeps that well, car camping better...because they can sleep in a porta-crib. Honestly day hikes seem to keep everyone the happiest. Are you joining the crowd?

 

Yep...in a week...

 

The baby is breech so we have a c-section scheduled for next tuesday. Obviously if my wife goes into labor before then we have to have a c-section right away.

 

I have to go to a training in Yosemite in late October. We rented one of those canvas platform tents with a heater and the like in it and plan on taking the baby... Hopefully that will work out. I guess we'll see.

 

Jason

[kevbone]

More cute baby photos from backpacking in Zion

 

 

 

 

How old is your beautiful baby?

[high_on_rock]

OK, mine are 7 - 9 and getting old on me. I need another baby. Anyone out there want to sell or lease one? God I love babies!

Eric

[sirwoofalot]

Hi Jason. We took our daughter car camping around 3 months and backpacking at 11 months. It's fun but you gotta be on it 100% of the time. The backpacking is tough, no one sleeps that well, car camping better...because they can sleep in a porta-crib. Honestly day hikes seem to keep everyone the happiest. Are you joining the crowd?

 

 

 

Sir,

My babies are 11 - boy, and 8 girl.

When he was 12 months or so I purchased a book put our by the Mountaineers. Hikes in Western Washington of childern, or something like that.

Limited car camping.

No over night hikes.

LOTS, and lots of day hikes to lakes when they were younger and more to easy walk ups as they are geeting a little older.

 

there is still that motivation factor you need to add in. Somedays they can go all day no problem and some days, well, some days you are better off staying in the car.

 

I love your photo. it is a keeper.

 

 

 

 

[ericb]

dberdinka.....out of curiosity, how did you execute the backpacking trip with your toddler....Mom with the Sherpani, and you with a monster pack?

 

I'm considering doing something short with the little bitty in late September....maybe Lake Ann or equivalent, and just trying to figure out how the logistics might shake out...me with a pack and ergo on front for counter-balance, etc.

[dberdinka]

My daughter, Araya, is now 14 months old. She was 11 and 12 months in those photos.

 

 

 

To begin with with we've carried her everywhere, everyday since she was born including a lot of dayhikes so she's use to and enjoys being in a pack. She's just starting to walk so that might all change but we've been doing well with up to 8 mile hikes.

 

As for how we do it, which mind you we've only done it twice so far, was to essentially pack as light as possible. Mom carried the baby and diaper stuff, I carried everything else..maybe 35 lbs worth. A backpacking load is ridiculously light compared to a climbing load so you throw in the baby and you're back to "normal". Well you've got piles of diapers, wipes, baby clothe, etc to carry so that means BD Lighthouse and a sleeping bag system that unzips into a comforter. Orginally I built her, her own little sleeping pad/blanket system for the head of the tent. Unfortunately that only lasted about 30 minutes before you crawled out of it. So we all slept together and not that well (if your wife is into the cosleeping thing you might have a real advantage here). Now she's off the boob but still pounds whole milk like crazy, so I'll get to carry another liter of milk a day.

 

I think a better approach would be a 3 person tent with a seperate sleeping space for the baby, there is a BabyPod or PeaPod thing that's like a little enclosed mesh tent for them to sleep in. If you could condition them to that pretrip it could work out great.

 

This weekend we're leaving the baby with Grandma and going kayaking overnight. Now this might be the way to go! She can still gain an appreciation of wilderness from dayhikes.

 

But don't mind my bitchin. Going backpacking was logistically complicated and frequently stressful, but so worth it as witness by the photo of......

 

Sunset Over The Great West Canyon

 

Edited July 30, 2007 by dberdinka

[kevbone]

This thread rules.....thanks for all the pictures.

 

This is this last weekend at Breitenbush. Miles first camping trip. He loved it.