lI1|1! Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 liberal wanker style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 I think the middle east would be better off if they all stopped wearing shoes. I mean, look how well Africa is doing, after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekend_Climberz Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 I think the middle east would be better of sinking into the arabian sea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 cJtHP4tQlic After viewing this video, I predict the era of the monkey-bomber will nigh be upon us. What they lack in fanaticism, ruthlessness, and obedience they surely make up for terms of agility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lI1|1! Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 If they hadn't, I'd still be worshipping trees. Wait, I still worship trees. this is how we got christmas trees. maybe the islamofaschoterroextremogodsquaders will let us keep chocolate ramadan bunnies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 I think the middle east would be better of sinking into the arabian sea. ....as long as we could park a floating oil rig above it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekend_Climberz Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 I think the middle east would be better of sinking into the arabian sea. ....as long as we could park a floating oil rig above it. That's a given. Wouldn't it be international waters then anyway?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Looks like a new sport in Gaza - sponsored by the religion of peace: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/10/israel.palestinians.ap/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 I think the middle east would be better of sinking into the arabian sea. ....as long as we could park a floating oil rig above it. That's a given. Wouldn't it be international waters then anyway?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZimZam Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 It's not sport, it's a revolt of a democratically elected majority overthrowing a puppet regime favored by the West. It would be in everyone's interest to engage Hamas, lest al-Qeada comes in to fill the vacuum, sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 I personally care more about the preservation of modern poltiical freedoms and liberal values than I do about preserving whatever whims that unfettered democracy gives rise to from time to time that may imperil those values - something that came about through a democratic process in the Reichstag comes to mind here. If the mass of people in a given region use the vote to endorse a species of barbaric fanaticism that's actively hostile Western values and the strongest Western ally, that's their right, but they shouldn't cry when they have to live with the consequences of those choices. The notion that any impulse that's sanctioned by an open vote is sufficient to compel the rest of the world to explicity endorse it, much less subsidize it to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars a year, is just insane. Hamas is a band of murderous Islamist fanatics who would turn on the West right after they realized their founding ambition of destroying Israel and killing everyone inside it. Their conduct towards their own people should leave no doubt concerning how they'd behave towards the objects of their hatred were they ever to gain the upper hand. The Palestinians tipped their hand when they elected Hamas, and now Hamas has shown the world their true nature, which differs from that of Al-Queda only in the fact that their barbarism and savagery - rather than taking aim at the entire civilized world -is directed at Jews in general and Israel in particular. The sooner the world recognizes this reality, the better. JJ0bWEnW_WU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZimZam Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 In most groups there are those who are moderates. Why not engage these moderates? Secondly, if the notion of that some democratic electorate is "fanatical", why are we running around the world promoting it, and then crying foul when we don't agree with the outcome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Another fine example of why state sponsored religion is a bad idea. Jay's point about endorsement of a process as distinct from endorsement of an outcome is well taken. I still support US democracy despite some obvious missteps and unpleasant consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 (edited) It's not sport, it's a revolt of a democratically elected majority overthrowing a puppet regime favored by the West. It would be in everyone's interest to engage Hamas, lest al-Qeada comes in to fill the vacuum, sport. Um, I believe Abbas was elected too. No matter; Fatah is no less murderous than Hamas albeit supposedly "secular". Maybe this mini-civil war will distract these barbarians long enough to let Israelis send their kids to school without fear they'll be blown to bits by bus-bombers or a homemade rocket. But somehow I'm sure Palestenians, no matter which political party of death they belong to, will still find time to kill Jews. Edited June 15, 2007 by Fairweather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 I have a question. Is that video that kicked off this thread real? (and no I don't mean the ninja chimp vid). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Yes, and...there's plenty more where that came from. Meet Farfur: 5G_YjKRDNVE "Farfur seems entirely innocent: he looks like Mickey Mouse, speaks in a squeaky voice and his name means “Butterfly” in Arabic. But the fuzzy-faced rodent — the star of a Palestinian children’s show, broadcast on Hamas-controlled television — is pitting Israel and Hamas against each other on a new battlefield: satellite television. The Israeli Foreign Ministry has ordered Hamas to withdraw Farfur’s show, Tomorrow’s Pioneers, on the ground that it is being used to “indoctrinate Palestinian children to violence, hatred and murder”, according to their statement. The perpetually smiling puppet, which routinely urges Palestinian children to support armed resistance, sang in one recent episode: “We will destroy the throne of the tyrants, we will pour the fire of death on them.” In another, Farfur admits to cheating in his exams because “the Jews destroyed my house”, and that he could not find his schoolbooks, buried in the rubble. Hamas refuses to ban Farfur. “This programme tries to relay noble Islamic concepts to the children by teaching them about life from our point of view,” according to Fathi Hamad, the chairman of al-Aqsa TV in Gaza City. The dispute also sheds light on one of Hamas’s newest weapons: its satellite television station is part of a strategy to strengthen its grip on Palestinian society, especially children. In a climate of factional fighting and international sanctions, Hamad said that al-Aqsa television, often known as “Hamas TV”, is part of the movement’s battle for the hearts of the Palestinian people. “It is a way of teaching children about the importance of Islam from a very early age,” he said. The station was modelled on Hezbollah’s al-Manar TV, which is watched across the Arab world. It was launched in January last year, broadcasting from a secret location in Gaza. This year it went to satellite, opening offices in the West Bank and hiring dozens of staff. The programming has evolved from hours of Koranic readings but now includes children’s shows, Islamic MTV, with videos of fighters from its armed wing, and an Islamic fashion show, geared to women, with tips on how to dress modestly and raise obedient children. Some secular Palestinians object to its message. Mustafa Barghouti, the Palestinian Information Minister, who hails from the secular Third Way movement, has appeared several times as a guest on the station. Last week, however, he said that Farfur’s show had crossed the line. “It reflects a mistaken approach to the Palestinian struggle for independence and should be suspended to allow for a review,” he said, but he conceded that the Palestinian Government had no jurisdiction over private stations. Hazem al-Sharawi, Hamas TV’s West Bank manager, said that al-Aqsa had no intention of turning back: “We don’t incite. We present facts. We can’t cut off our children from the reality they live every day. “We need to launch a counter-offensive. We have to stop preaching to ourselves and start broadcasting to the whole world,” he said. " Times of London Article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Don't miss the suicide-vest + scimitar + burqua dance at about 5:30... G4zgURMOZ6k More Farfur. gi-c6lbFGC4 Appropriating a Disney character for these purposes shows that, whatever else, at least the Hamas leadership hasn't lost its sense of irony... Uno Mas.. xEB0SvMzKzg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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