PLC Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Typical Plan (put together on Sunday night): Mon - lift weights AM, soccer game PM Tue - run 4 miles AM, swim 30 min PM Wed - mountain bike 1 hour, crossfit Thu - swim 30 min AM, basketball game PM Fri - run speedwork AM, crossfit Sat/Sun - climbing, hiking, biking Typical Reality: Mon - sleep in, soccer game Tue - run 4 miles, pull all nighter at work Wed - try to recover from all nighter Thu - another all-nighter Fri - try to recover from all nighter Sat/Sun - play with the kids, short hike The secret to avoidign overtraining is to work at Microsoft... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizard_brain Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 (edited) I like running too, and am training for my first marathon. Been doing 20-mile long runs on the weekends, but now it's time to taper off. I was snowshoeing almost every Saturday and Sunday in January and February, and stopped sometime in March so I could stick to running. I was getting back from snowshoe trips and going running. I got back to where I was resting the day before and after the long runs. Now I'm looking forward to getting the damned marathon over with, so I can get back to rollerbalding on the Burke-Gilman on these long evenings after work, and spend my weekends outdoors again. The race is just over 2 weeks away. I'll still run after the race - just not on the weekends, and I'll trade some weeknights for some evenings of zen-state rolling on the Burke. Edited May 4, 2007 by lizard_brain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 The secret to avoidign overtraining is to work at Microsoft... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Did that help at all? yeah, kinda... So, how do I know if I'm firing late/early? Do I need a timing light or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_A Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 This week: Monday: Lactate Threshold intervals Tuesday: easy aerobic run (60 min), rock gym Wednesday: easy aerobic elliptical, rock gym Thursday: Lactate Threshold- tempo training Friday: easy 30 minute elliptical, easy swimming Saturday: rest Sunday: alpine climb (hopefully...or taking the gear for a walk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_like_sun Posted May 5, 2007 Author Share Posted May 5, 2007 Yeah, they now make these little muscle timers that tells you exactly how stable you joints are...... No. I was just trying to get A DIFFERENT point accross... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevino Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 Funny how the perception of running changes according to different groups...I see no other option BUT to run 70miles per week or more this summer to keep my spot on the varsity cross country team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_like_sun Posted May 6, 2007 Author Share Posted May 6, 2007 Good plan. Check out the european olympic running teams and their training. In the past they have been the only teams that didn't overtrain. And they won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurthicks Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Check out the european olympic running teams and their training. In the past they have been the only teams that didn't overtrain. And they won. Overtraining is what killed my college cross/track career. It used to be all negative splits, 70 mile weeks, lots of intervals, etc. 6-7 days/week of hard workouts and races from 800m to 10 miles, but now I can barely get motivated to train at all. now: monday-tuesday: 2-3 PBRs/night Wednesday: micro night thurs: 2 Deschutes Fri: drive to trailhead or crag. 1-3 tall boys. sat-sun: SEND! * I do walk a couple miles each day to/from work, uphill both ways (it is possible), but the best training for climbing is climbing, oh and doing lots of (liquid) carbo loading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevino Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Good plan. Check out the european olympic running teams and their training. In the past they have been the only teams that didn't overtrain. And they won. How far in the past? pre-70s? Outside of coe and ovett in the late 80s and early 90s, both of whom were 800 runners, europe hasn't produced any solid distance talent. The africans have dominated, but thats all irrelevant. I personally find it hard to directly compare world class training to my own. When I get up to 70 mpw I'll usually have around 3 morning runs of 4 miles each. One long run of 12-14 miles and I always take one day off. This usually leaves around ~44 miles between 5 days and 9 miles/day isn't bad. Do a couple 10 milers and recovery runs. Plus, for those who don't know, HAVING RUNNING PARTNERS MAKES RUNNING EASIER! Also, have a goal keeps the motivation up. Sorry for the rambling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackers Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Check out the european olympic running teams and their training. In the past they have been the only teams that didn't overtrain. And they won. Uh? What? Would that be the new european country of Morocco? Or Kenya? Or the USA or even Canada? Or East Germany? Or Spanish runners? Or Austrian biathalon team? With steroids, you can overtrain and rest at the same time. Frankly, I couldn't care less about olympic athletes. Been there, don't have the needle marks, don't need to go back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_like_sun Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 I WAS NOT saying go use roids man....... don't know how you got there..... I was mainly refering to older teams, like back in the 70's. I had a good chat with someone I know who used to work with the US running team, and they were trying to figure out why they wern't doing better despite their 100 mile a week training regimen. Then they went to europe and looked at training over there. Teams all over europe were running no more than 30 miles a week, but they were running at a much higher intenstiy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 maybe our hamstrings are firing too early Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_like_sun Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 Maybe. Its more likely that they are firing too late however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevino Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 I'm sorry, but there are absoluetly no olympic caliber distance runners going 30 mpw post 1950s. Even Roger Bannister was running a fair amount. John Landy was no slouch when it came to mileage either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_like_sun Posted May 8, 2007 Author Share Posted May 8, 2007 You may be right. Perhaps my source was wrong. I'll look into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken4ord Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 I'll bite: Mon: Swim 4,000 yrds, run 8 miles, climb in the gym Tues: Lift weights 75 min, bike 40 miles Wed: Swim 4,000 yrds, run 8 miles, climb in the gym Thur: Swim 4,000 yrds, bike 40 miles Fri: Lift weights 75 min, run 8 miles Sat: Swim 4,000 yrds, 3 hour trail run on Tiger Mt Sun: Bike 60 miles, easy 90 min run up and down Mt Si Rest: What for? Sounds like you never get into the mountains except for your Tiger run. My schedule: All Days: stretch and crunches 30min in morning Mon: boulder 2-3 hours, short run 30min max Tue: rest Wed: morning road ride or night ride MTB ~2hours Thu: boulder 2-3 hours, short run 30min max Fri: rest Sat: MTB ride 3-6 hours, will boulder if I do shorter ride or climb outside on the real stuff if not biking Sun: MTB ride 3-6 hours, will boulder if I do shorter ride or climb outside on the real stuff if not biking I will probably start throwing in some more short run (I hate running) just so that I drop some more weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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