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So I just mail ordered a new rope and it turns out it's special forces black. While it's awesome and stealthy, how am I supposed to mark the middle? Any suggestions?

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Same problem I had; didn't think about it until I had it home (d'oh!). Is it a Beal Joker?

 

A pal of mine did Kurt's trick for me; lasted a while, but it's mainly gone now. I just keep the spot marked with a bit of duct tape wrapped around and check the position every time I take it out (there's prolly a better way.)

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I found that the thread wears the fastest when belaying past the middle mark. it is time consuming, but probably the safest method for marking a rope since there are no chemicals involved. as chad points out, it must be reapplied occasionally.

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My experience with the thread markings on the Metolius Monster(?) ropes is that most of the exposed thread breaks off, but it still leaves a little bit visible. I'd think you'd be better off using a bright thread than using dental floss, which is more likely to slide right back out.

 

Out of curiosity, for those of you with the Beal Joker, or similar, what is the longevity like? I'm toying with the idea of getting one ($150 for 70M seems pretty good), but want to know if I'm gonna have to replace it after spending a week or two in, say, the canyons at Red Rock.

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Thanks everyone for your input. Yeah, it's the beal joker for $150 bucks. I'm expecting it will get trashed pretty quickly. Sporto???!!!???!!? I'm offended beotch!

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Out of curiosity, for those of you with the Beal Joker, or similar, what is the longevity like? I'm toying with the idea of getting one ($150 for 70M seems pretty good), but want to know if I'm gonna have to replace it after spending a week or two in, say, the canyons at Red Rock.

 

The longegevty is shit.

 

Check Josephs thread on dynema slings. Same thing on ropes.

 

I apologise as I read this somewhere earlier, then couldn't find the link for you, but I thought it was one of the Black Diamond fellas who did a test on one of his old lines and the results displaying the weakness of that rope were nothing short of shocking.

 

 

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That doesn't sound encouraging. I have a Joker and so does my climbing partner. I use it for alpine climbing only and have a 10.2 for cragging. I have even been tossing around the idea of using a 8 mm for a half rope system. I would be interested in seeing that BD thread. In this case ignorance is not bliss.

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Thanks Bill - I think I found the link:

http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/scene/beta/qc_kp_archive.php#011907

 

that's pretty much what I was worried about. All his tests look like they were on 9.4mm ropes, so it would be nice to see the tests on a 10-10.5mm ropes of the same age/usage. He didn't really specify how old they were other than they were "beat". I'm mainly wondering just how much more quickly a 9.1-9.4 rope gets to that stage than a 10-10.5 does.

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