kevbone Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 (edited) This is where you post your thoughts on anything that has to do with the tragic loss on Mt. Hood. Without Seahawk. Its always hits home hard when there is death in our sport, especially when it is local. A huge hug goes out to all involved with there family and friends, and the Search and Rescue team. It would be nice not to post anymore in the speculation thread; due to it has turned into a bitch session with a newbie. PS. Let’s see how long it takes for Seahawk to post here. Edited December 29, 2006 by kevbone Quote
Weekend_Climberz Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 Oh Christ, not more of this drivel. Quote
ericb Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 In Climbing Panther's recent post he surmises that more fuel might have helped Kelly's survival. Does anybody know if a stove was found in the Cave? Quote
quicker_than_ewe Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 It's been speculated that more food would have helped. Were there any MRE wrappers in the cave? Quote
ClimbingPanther Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 Here's one related thought I have been having which MAY actually have some value for people: http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/627445/Main/627445/#Post627445 Knowing what we know now, how much fuel would have been necessary to keep the single person in a snow cave alive for a whole week up there, or could fuel have even made a difference? Is a week's fuel a reasonable burden to carry? Quote
ericb Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 Hi, I'm Seahawks clone! How about learning to use apostrophes you nitwit Quote
kevbone Posted December 29, 2006 Author Posted December 29, 2006 Hi, I'm Seahawks clone! Now that is funny. LOL. Quote
ericb Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 Here's one related thought I have been having which MAY actually have some value for people: http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/627445/Main/627445/#Post627445 Knowing what we know now, how much fuel would have been necessary to keep the single person in a snow cave alive for a whole week up there, or could fuel have even made a difference? Is a week's fuel a reasonable burden to carry? at the risk of ghouling out, I have a serious question. I understand that dehydration can increase the risk of hypothermia....thick blood, for lack of a more elegant answer. I would guess that the necessary water consumption would vary by individual (some folks consume more water than others), and depend on availability of insulating layers, etc. Quote
kevbone Posted December 29, 2006 Author Posted December 29, 2006 at the risk of ghouling out, I have a serious question. I understand that dehydration can increase the risk of hypothermia....thick blood, for lack of a more elegant answer. I would guess that the necessary water consumption would vary by individual (some folks consume more water than others), and depend on availability of insulating layers, etc. Not to be an ass, but what is your question? Quote
kevbone Posted December 29, 2006 Author Posted December 29, 2006 On the "other thread" Seahawk just posted "Nice new thread Kevboner. Liked it. numnut. They should change your name to Numnut just for doing that" What a tool. Quote
joblo7 Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 (edited) with a tiny snopeak stove and one cannister ,(few ounces) and a little food (bars...) you could last easily a week as long you dont get too wet and its above -30 outside. when you melt snow, you warm your cave and body and dry a little .keep the bottle in your pants.dont waste . a bivy,big shell,would help to save heat. I MEAN YOU WILL SURVIVE, NOT VACATION..... Edited December 29, 2006 by virendra7 Quote
kevbone Posted December 29, 2006 Author Posted December 29, 2006 with a tiny snopeak stove and one cannister ,(few ounces) and a little food (bars...) you could last easily a week as long you dont get too wet and its above -30 outside. when you melt snow, you warm your cave and body and dry a little .keep the bottle in your pants.dont waste . a bivy,big shell,would help to save heat. How much alpine experience do you have? Quote
joblo7 Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 10+ years intense. usually at altitude.(andes. tibet.)maybe 30 mountains. forced to cave at 6000, and 7200m .spent months on snow, want to climb E. this year.why? anyrhing specific? Quote
joblo7 Posted December 30, 2006 Posted December 30, 2006 do you know how long nf hood gully climb takes ? Quote
kevbone Posted December 30, 2006 Author Posted December 30, 2006 do you know how long nf hood gully climb takes ? Nope. Never climbed hood. That is one of my goal this coming year. I have focused on rock climbing. Quote
kevbone Posted December 30, 2006 Author Posted December 30, 2006 Its nice not having to deal with that S...hawk posting mfer. Quote
kevbone Posted December 30, 2006 Author Posted December 30, 2006 how did you all keep him out? Im not sure. He has not posted here yet? Lets hope he does not.....wait a minute. How do we know you are not seahawk. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted December 30, 2006 Posted December 30, 2006 (edited) God knows your the say all on whos got anything good to say. Wow admins did that. Can anyone decipher this for me? Is it a new form of rhymin'? Edited December 30, 2006 by tvashtarkatena Quote
kevbone Posted December 30, 2006 Author Posted December 30, 2006 Is it a new form of rhymin'? Certanley could be. Quote
cindy66 Posted January 2, 2007 Posted January 2, 2007 how did you all keep him out? Im not sure. He has not posted here yet? Lets hope he does not.....wait a minute. How do we know you are not seahawk. You dont, kevbone.....but go look around in the Forum , I have some sense>unlike seahawk. Quote
Dechristo Posted January 2, 2007 Posted January 2, 2007 God knows your the say all on whos got anything good to say. Wow admins did that. Can anyone decipher this for me? Is it a new form of rhymin'? crap rap Quote
pink Posted January 2, 2007 Posted January 2, 2007 how did you all keep him out? Im not sure. He has not posted here yet? Lets hope he does not.....wait a minute. How do we know you are not seahawk. You dont, kevbone.....but go look around in the Forum , I have some sense>unlike seahawk. [/quote twocents Quote
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