Rock quality Question

[aussie69]

So we found this super sweet rock face but its pretty much rotten. But like i said its super sweet. REAL local and a great training ground for further adventures. people have climbed it be for. I'm just wondering what all you r opinions on this are. just scrape of the bad stuff an go? or what...

 

 

[StreetBoss]

can't be all bad. Go for it.

[billcoe]

If people have climbed it before, then ask them.

 

If it's virgin:

 

Your first pic looks like if you touch it it's going for a ride. Have a ground crew with a walkie talkie watching the base if there is .001 percent doubt a loose rock could nail a living being. Alternatively tie safety tape around the impact zone. I find that once I start tossing rocks off, most rational wandering human beings will stop some distance away to watch, but not always, so keep an eye out cause they will walk directly below you to see what you are about, without regard towards their own safety if they do not know what you are doing. Rap down from the top with an old rope, make sure the ends of your rap rope are knotted and stuffed into a sack which is on your waist or neck.

 

Have jumars and a long pry bar with you. Maybe a drill, hangers and bolts too.

 

Rap a pitch and don't leave any loose stuff balanced above you. So as you go down kick, push or pry it off. You do not want to rope to pluck off that balancing rock you neglected 100 feet up. Get down a pitch and either jug back up or put in a gear or bolt anchor as needed.

 

Repeat as necessary. Do routes. Have fun.

 

If the stuff will fall off easy, dump it in a controled manner so it doesn't kill someone is my opinion. Start by asking around first to make sure that others are good with your plan of action. Maybe hang out there for a day and see if anyone shows up and then discuss it, check the area online for info etc etc.. Some of it looks very doable as is though....

 

Have fun!

[aussie69]

Thanks much it was some very helpful info. I doubt other humans will be much of a hazard. This spot is so tucked away! I love it. Basicly my secret spot. Welp I'm gonna have to start work on it ASAP! again thanks all. Wish me luck!

[billcoe]

Good luck!

[catbirdseat]

It sure looks like North Bend rhinostone, a metamorphosed basalt.

[tivoli_mike]

Thats what I was thinking, a few more trees I would say you were on the Far Side :-D

[aussie69]

well all your guessess of location would be wrong! any one here familiar with the little town of Eatonville? Its very hidden. and with out local knowledge quite difficult to get back to.

[TeleRoss]

If it's pretty much rotten what is so sweet about it.

There definitely is no shortage of steep choss tossin around here.

[Off_White]

Hmmm, is it that crag you can see back across Ohop Lake from the intersection on the route from McKenna to Eatonville? Seen to the left in this Google Earth Image:

 

[aussie69]

Its sweet because of the ride back to it, its seclusioness, and the fact that with some work it'll be perfectly climbable. I'll post some better photos once i develope them. And nope! its actualy slitely visable from the town. If you know where the gun club is look behind that.

[Jens]

I climbed at the stuff behind the gun club a few times in the 80's.

Yoder would be the authority on anything within that neck of the woods you guys are talking about. He lives their now.

Edited November 4, 2006 by Jens

[flatwall]

Funny, enough - this is similar to a wall I strolled underneath out at starvation creek this past weekend. Taking the Starvation Ridge trail instead of Defiance, i snuck a peek along the base. A big mess of moss, choss and a few animal bones. But underneath the roofs, the basalt columns somewhat unbroken.

 

Then I found bolts heading up a slab. I saw two and didn't follow in the pouring rain, but someone had billcoe's idea: clean it and see what pops out. There was certainly enough "prior wall" along the base. Pulling that stuff could send junk all the way to the 84 with an unlucky roll, so I imagine someone realized this and gave up. You'd have to pull an awful lot of rock to find smiles, but then again, there was maybe a 1/4 mile of wall to check out.

 

I would name it the Jenga Wall if given a vote. [pull pieces without with having it crash down - heh]

 

I've typed a few searches here and elsewhere without much. I'm not "starving" for adventure that much. But if someone is, chew on that.

 

EDIT: picture attachment

Edited November 6, 2006 by flatwall

[G-spotter]

If my crag looked like that I'd teach it to lie on its side and call it a patio

[aussie69]

hahaha. thats a good name! but i was thinking of naming the wall senior Greeko. for no real reason just like the name...maybe we'll give it a long confusing name like... Senior Greeko De Jenga la Jeasus numero uno??? darn you now i wanna name it jenga...

[chris]

I wonder if its a certain piece of rock on DNR land...

[Alex]

Your first pic looks pretty junky. Even quite-solid-looking stuff can turn into a full day with the crowbar just to get the largest deathblocks down from above before they kill you or other climbers from being flossed off with a rope on rap.

[aussie69]

DMR land what do you mean?

[Off_White]

DNR = Department of Natural Resources, a Washington State agency. The portion of Fossil Rock that is on DNR land is closed to climbing.

[aussie69]

Realy? that sucks... I'm prety sure its not DNR land tho. The local rock quary said they own it. My friend and I have really been researching this wall.We've checked with all the local companies that might be affiliated with it (ex. rock quarry, gun club,ect. ect.). do you work for them?