G-spotter Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 "Somme. The whole history of the world cannot contain a more ghastly word." Quote
cj001f Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 How many thousand? To what end? a thousand thousands for naught, with many more battles to fight Quote
ZONK Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 Read the History and stories of this Battle and it will leave You with sad empty feelings. A hell of a lot of Young men died on both sides for a few yards of dirt. Because of this Battle My Great Granddad deserted the Germany army and sneeked over the Alps with kids in tow, only to end up in Eastern Washington. Quote
Off_White Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 Are you sure that isn't a picture of a bunch of loggers in BC? Quote
lancegranite Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 My grandfather lied about his age,signed up, was a litter bearer in France. He was 13. Quote
G-spotter Posted June 28, 2006 Author Posted June 28, 2006 Are you sure that isn't a picture of a bunch of loggers in BC? In BC we do not have to dig trenches, it is done for us. Also it is hard to find a piece of ground that flat. Quote
Off_White Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 Pretty flat in the 'Wack, innit? Bet there were a lot of trees there 91 years ago. Quote
G-spotter Posted June 28, 2006 Author Posted June 28, 2006 No cause it was still a swamp then. Also they burned it off in the 1880s. Quote
Off_White Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 well, guess I'll know better than to say "Alex, I'll take lowland Canadian geographic history for fifty." Quote
DirtyHarry Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 No cause it was still a swamp then. Also they burned it off in the 1880s. When did they move the trailers in? Quote
JayB Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 Thread Drift - but it's pretty amazing to look at photos of New England from around a century ago and compare that to today. Back then I think New England was something like 80 percent field and 20 percent forest, and now the reverse is true. Quote
Off_White Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 New England in general is not nearly as paved as a Westerner might assume. I've heard JayB's part about resurgance of NE forests before too. All those trees out there are soooo cute, they're just like real trees but smaller. You know, kind of like the mountains. Quote
Off_White Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 Didn't Pavement break up? Yeah, and now Sleater-Kinney too. Quote
JayB Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 And how much is pavement? Not much, but it's pretty heavily settled/plotted-out. Woods vs Wilderness. No wilderness here until you get a ways up into Maine. Quote
JayB Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 New England in general is not nearly as paved as a Westerner might assume. I've heard JayB's part about resurgance of NE forests before too. All those trees out there are soooo cute, they're just like real trees but smaller. You know, kind of like the mountains. Yup. Pretty uninspiring unless you're from Iowa. Quote
cj001f Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 No wilderness here until you get a ways up into Maine. There's still some areas of the Adirondaks that are as 'wilderness' as anything in the west. Wilderness is going, going, gone. Some areas are as girdletraversed as could be though.... Quote
billcoe Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 My grandfather (Bill Coe) was a marine in a ditch in the Western Front (pretty much Belgium). I asked him once " What was WW1 like"? He paused for quite some time, staring into the distance. Finally he says in a quiet voice which carried the weight of finality: "horrible". End of conversation. Guess he didn't want to discuss the ditch rats eating his dead buddies who were lying in the excrement of the ditch, rotting, while he watched. Has anybody anywhere ever really figured out what got that bastard Woodrow Wilson, the "peace candidate", to commit so many good lives to what was clearly a ghastly horror show? Quote
cj001f Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 Has anybody anywhere ever really figured out what got that bastard Woodrow Wilson, the "peace candidate", to commit so many good lives to what was clearly a ghastly horror show? The thought of fucking ending it you stupid SOB? Clearly we would have been less reprehensibel feeding the beasts of hell and profiting Quote
ZimZam Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 Has anybody anywhere ever really figured out what got that bastard Woodrow Wilson, the "peace candidate", to commit so many good lives to what was clearly a ghastly horror show? The promotion of democracy. The theory being democracies don't wage war on each other. A good book to read about WW1 is the "Guns of August." Quote
mountainhesh Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 I read a great book "WWI" by John Keegan - When you read about French troops marching 25+ miles a day in worse than sh*tty boots, carrying 70+ lbs on thier backs through mud etc..., it's hard to feel too hardcore about ultralight cascade mountaineering...not that I do anything that would be considered too hardcore in the first place... Quote
cj001f Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 I read a great book "WWI" by John Keegan The Guns of August is interesting as well. Quote
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