RuMR Posted April 30, 2006 Author Posted April 30, 2006 i'm takin' the mini-monkeys to smiff next weekend...anyone up for it??? Quote
olyclimber Posted April 30, 2006 Posted April 30, 2006 i'd rather not drive so far...if the weather is nice, we'll probably go up to Leavenworth again. but we'd be up for a 3 day trip to Smith sometime for sure. SKULL HOLLLLOOOOWWWW!!! Quote
RuMR Posted May 1, 2006 Author Posted May 1, 2006 come on!!!! Just go!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm likely leaving Thursday night... Quote
ken4ord Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 This a good stoke thread, just proof that climbing isn't over when you become a parent. Thanks everyone. Awesome pictures. Have fun out there with kids. Quote
minx Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 Ken don't worry about climbing once you have kids. Even if your kid doesn' t like it (mine certainly doesn't) they can tag along and play in the dirt quite happily. Quote
MountaingirlBC Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 Mine like the climbing part fine... it's the hiking part we have trouble with. A few thoughts I came up with on the subject last year: Â I've learned that I have to take any time estimate and multiply it by 3 or 4. Â I've learned that I have to feed them at very regular intervals or their engines stall. Even when they're not hungry, I have to make them eat something... even if it's just a bite of chocolate. Â I've learned to take 3 times as many socks and clothes as I think I will need because if there is a way to get wet, my boys will find it. Â I've learned that I have to completely deconstruct expectations and have very different goals. I need to slow down and be there to experience nature from my children's perspective. This is a completely different experience from when I go without them. Â I've learned that there are many destinations along a trail and the summit may not be on the list today. The boulder field is a playground. The stream is a waterpark. The snowslope is a toboggan run. We mustn't rush through on our way to somewhere else. We're already somewhere. Â I've learned that frequent breaks pay for themselves in happier kids and more time on the trail. They are also great opportunities to reconnect and talk. Â I've learned that I can still get away with holding my 9 year old's hand as we hike long after the tricky part he needed help with is over. Â I've learned that you have to make kids do things they don't want to do even when it would be easier to just give in because that is what being a parent is all about and it's worth it. Quote
RuMR Posted May 1, 2006 Author Posted May 1, 2006 hahahaha...i just figure on not climbing when i take them...if i get some in, that's great and gravy, but i don't count on it... Â Â watching them suceed is more than enough for me... Quote
ScottP Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 Mine like the climbing part fine... it's the hiking part we have trouble with. A few thoughts I came up with on the subject last year:Â I've learned that I have to take any time estimate and multiply it by 3 or 4. Â I've learned that I have to feed them at very regular intervals or their engines stall. Even when they're not hungry, I have to make them eat something... even if it's just a bite of chocolate. Â I've learned to take 3 times as many socks and clothes as I think I will need because if there is a way to get wet, my boys will find it. Â I've learned that I have to completely deconstruct expectations and have very different goals. I need to slow down and be there to experience nature from my children's perspective. This is a completely different experience from when I go without them. Â I've learned that there are many destinations along a trail and the summit may not be on the list today. The boulder field is a playground. The stream is a waterpark. The snowslope is a toboggan run. We mustn't rush through on our way to somewhere else. We're already somewhere. Â I've learned that frequent breaks pay for themselves in happier kids and more time on the trail. They are also great opportunities to reconnect and talk. Â I've learned that I can still get away with holding my 9 year old's hand as we hike long after the tricky part he needed help with is over. Â I've learned that you have to make kids do things they don't want to do even when it would be easier to just give in because that is what being a parent is all about and it's worth it. Â The goal should be that by the end of the day they want to go do it again, no matter the outcome. Quote
Alpinfox Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 Â Â OMG!! Â I can't tell ya'll how warm and fuzzy I feel right now! Quote
kix Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 Mine like the climbing part fine... it's the hiking part we have trouble with. A few thoughts I came up with on the subject last year:Â I've learned that I have to take any time estimate and multiply it by 3 or 4. Â I've learned that I have to feed them at very regular intervals or their engines stall. Even when they're not hungry, I have to make them eat something... even if it's just a bite of chocolate. Â I've learned to take 3 times as many socks and clothes as I think I will need because if there is a way to get wet, my boys will find it. Â I've learned that I have to completely deconstruct expectations and have very different goals. I need to slow down and be there to experience nature from my children's perspective. This is a completely different experience from when I go without them. Â I've learned that there are many destinations along a trail and the summit may not be on the list today. The boulder field is a playground. The stream is a waterpark. The snowslope is a toboggan run. We mustn't rush through on our way to somewhere else. We're already somewhere. Â I've learned that frequent breaks pay for themselves in happier kids and more time on the trail. They are also great opportunities to reconnect and talk. Â I've learned that I can still get away with holding my 9 year old's hand as we hike long after the tricky part he needed help with is over. Â I've learned that you have to make kids do things they don't want to do even when it would be easier to just give in because that is what being a parent is all about and it's worth it. Â I find most of those things to be true, about me, when I am out climbing by myself. especially the hand holding part. Quote
mattp Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 When I was a kid my mom would sometimes arrange hikes where we could get together with another family for a car shuttle or take some form of public transportation so that we could hike a downhill route. She could always keep us moving downhill while hiking uphill might be a different story. I hiked down Mount Washington, in New Hampshire, when I was about six. I didn't manage to climb UP it until I was ten. Quote
olyclimber Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 Â OMG!! Â I can't tell ya'll how warm and fuzzy I feel right now! Â hands out of pants fox! Quote
MountaingirlBC Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 I just picked up new shoes, boots and harness for my youngest at the MEC gear swap so we're all good to go. The full body harness was getting a little small. My oldest is big enough to wear my gear. Stood in line for an hour to get in and all I got for me was a pair of gloves! Quote
RuMR Posted May 2, 2006 Author Posted May 2, 2006 see...that would be yet another reason to get a kids forum!! Gear swappage!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote
MountaingirlBC Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 totally! I hate buying new gear for them as they grow so fast. Only problem with having a kids forum here is that I'm pretty sure this site wouldn't make it through the net nanny software I have on my kids computer Quote
Couloir Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 totally! I hate buying new gear for them as they grow so fast. Only problem with having a kids forum here is that I'm pretty sure this site wouldn't make it through the net nanny software I have on my kids computer Exactly. How many times does the term 'hardcore' get used around here. Even at work, if I use it in the business sense, our filters here still pick it up. Quote
G-spotter Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 have you considered  hardcorps hard, core h4rdc0r3 h@rdcore  etc. Quote
olyclimber Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 I don't think the idea was for kids to be reading and posting on cc.com ....it is for the adults with kids. Â ulee has no interest in reading or posting here. he'd rather be climbing, playing with sharp objects, or off wilding with his pals. Quote
ncascademtns Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 I was out to Leavenworth with my twin boys this past weekend and climbed at Playground Point. I found out that they have just about grown out of their full body harnesess so they will be going up for sale as soon as I can find replacements. Any suggestions? These ones I got at MEC and I believe they are a Rock Empire. Quote
olyclimber Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 I've only had the Trango harness...it has fit ulee since he was 2 (he is now going to be 5 soon). I think it will fit him for quite a while longer. It even has gearloops! Â http://www.mgear.com/pages/product/produ...el2_id/0/N/1204 Quote
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