DirtyHarry Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Who fucking cares. Good for Mr. Whitelaw for putting in some hardwork and making some coin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 "This guide is for climbers with busy lives who want to make the most of their time on the rock." Â One of the biggest reasons climbing, like golf, is so addictive is because the only way to keep up the performance is do it a lot. If you don't get out often, your skills deteriorate. Maybe I'm a "rich bumbly" but I find it's pretty damn hard to climb in excess of 10a off the couch. Â So given the premise of his book "for climbers with busy lives", I'd say his focus of sub 5.10 is a great idea. I doubt there's a lot of guidebooks out there that have 300 routes in 'em that I could do off the couch. Now there's at least one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 We could ask them, but I think we can assume that neither the author nor the publisher intended to suggest that climbers who buy the book cannot or will never climb a 5.10b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 dru, if you could just STFU for us, that'd be great. instead, hows about you go write a climbing book so you can drop that incredible knowledge you have on us, and stop it with the player hating? Â If anyone's a hater here it seems to me it is a guidebook author who thinks "Weekend Rock" doesn't include classics like the I think there is either condescending or deliberate targeting of the stereotypical "rich bumbly" to make a guidebook that stops at 10a. Seems like you're telling potential customers "This guidebook is only of interest to people who will never, ever, be able to climb 10b". Hence the WTF. Â Opinions are like assholes... Â A guidebook that implies that "trad climbing" is limited to 5.9 and under. Â Who is doing the implying here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 yeah---what dirty harry and chuck said. if this book won't apply to you ... don't buy it, don't use it. this seems pretty simple.  OTOH--there are plenty of climbers out there who don't regularly get on harder stuff. nothing wrong with there being a guidebook aimed at them. (me)  haven't seen the book yet but i'll be checking it out and a likely customer for mr. whitelaw  there are plenty of reasons to insult a guidebook, bad topos, poor route descriptions, bad approach directions etc. target audience isn't one of them. sometimes folks are such unbelievable wankers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Don't hate. Congratulate. Â While we are on the subject of congratulating people, I'd like to congratulate/thank Ron Cotman for developing Pearly Gates. It's the best craggin' in the Icicle in my opinion. I'm glad he got on the cover of the book too. Â Â BTW: If anyone would like to try to order "Weekend Rock" for $0 plus $5 shipping, CLICK HERE. Your order will be cancelled, but it's a fun little game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekend_Climberz Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 LOL You first wrote "Washington Rock" and then I changed it to Weekend Rock only to read my edit and change it incorrectly to Weekend Climber. Check out the post titles. Â Thanks for the free publicity!! Â Oh...and STFU Dru. Â Cheers David on a book well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selkirk Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Oh be nice everyone. What Dru is trying to say is that he only owns, and will only ever own, one climbing guidebook and it runs from 5.9-5.12 because any other type of climbing is either beyond him or below him. Â Can you blame him for having a narrow perspective? Â And I know lots of folks who'd love a copy of this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 I think Dru is rather sensitive to people always implying that he can't climb 5.10. Â So much so that he thought David Whitelaw was insulting him from afar, similar to that nutcase who got the restraining order on Letterman . Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 I think Dru is rather sensitive to people always implying that he can't climb 5.10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmace Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 One of the biggest reasons climbing, like golf, Â Â Bwaahahahahha, thats awesome dude, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeatherBob Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 a nice looking book. One question, who is knob queen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willstrickland Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I don't know a whole lot of weekend warriors who lead multi pitch 5.11 trad off the couch, and if he can fill the book with cruiser, classic routes that appeal to people juggling a career, home, children, etc that get out maybe 5-10 times per year....then it's a service to those people. Why do you care? Â I guess it's an insult to chest thumping hardmen who onsight 5.12 cracks like Dru...oh wait.... Â You should be glad that he's steering them to a few specific routes because it keeps them from bumbling up your favorite areas, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 (The sound of crickets chirping from the Druosphere...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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