Pat Robertson, serial lunatic or just plain folks?

[Stonehead]

Uh...isn't it that the Right supports Capitalism but not necessarily democracy?

[j_b]

the guy was voted in.

 

not once but multiple times in spite of our funding of a recall. it'd probably be difficult to find a more representative gvt in latin america today.

 

Oh yea -that "national interest" thing. Read - oil.

 

oh! you mean it's not the defense of individual liberty ... pinochet style

[j_b]

and you think your rightwing-goon-finger-pointing-on-the-internet style makes you look like what?

 

hey dipshit, you are not going to answer my question?

[Fairweather]

I thought the right-wing supported democracy - the guy was voted in. End of story.

 

 

...So was Adolph Hitler. It's only the 'end of the story' when they face reelection...and relinquish power when they lose. I gave a weak salute to Daniel Ortega for doing just this.

[Jim]

Oh - I keep forgetting it's our job to tell other countries how to run their own. And I'm as worried as you that Venezuela will roll into Brazil unobstructed! Then where will we be?!

[Fairweather]

i have always been clear about what i stood for: i am for agrarian reform...

 

...like Pal Pot? Mao? Mugabe?

 

In at least two of these instances, "agrarian reform" was shortly followed by the appearance of mass graves.

[j_b]

chavez won the vote in 1998, 2000 et 2004 with ~60% of the vote so i am not sure what you are talking about.

 

Venezuela's Voters Have Spoken

Hugo Chávez won fair and square.

 

BY JIMMY CARTER

 

and hitler came to power with ~ 1/3 of the vote.

[Fairweather]

Why did EU election officials boycott the 2004 vote in Venezuela? Because they were denied the means by which they could uphold the veracity of the final count!

 

...By the Chavez government.

 

But I'm glad to hear that Jimmy could handle things all by himself.

[j_b]

...like Pal Pot? Mao? Mugabe?

 

In at least two of these instances, "agrarian reform" was shortly followed by the appearance of mass graves.

 

the most amazing part is that someone supporting regimes that have murdered 100,000's in latin america would make such remarks.

 

and for the record i have never supported any such regimes or any other that look like them. there, it's settled, we can move away from the smears and the wingnut rhetoric!

[Dru]

Pat Robertson's baloney spin denial and then eventual embarassed capitulation and apology today were things of beauty to behold. Gotta wonder what drugs the fellow is on, or is he just becoming senile.

[j_b]

the choir of "it was inappropriate" was priceless as well. i wonder if in the future, hatemongers calling for the murder of elected officials will receive notes from the fbi calling them on their "inappropriate" remarks.

 

so will the FTC investigate? or is janet jackson's boob a greater threat to family values?

[markinore]

I am struck by the relative reticence of many Christian leaders to denounce Robertson. This is especially true in light of calls for Muslims leaders to denounce other Muslims who advocate violence.

[selkirk]

Is there any greater threat to family values than religions that espouse blind, unquestioning, unreasoning, faith in one individuals interperation of the holy texts and how they apply to the world above all else?

[archenemy]

Do as I say, not as I do.

that's what I say.

[j_b]

They'll politely say the guy is a looney but they nevertheless agree with him (like fairweather did). More than religion per se it's 21th century 'manifest destiny'. They insist in continuing to see latin america as their backyard which is probably not possible anymore.

[foraker]

i loved the white house response as it being 'inappropriate'. loosely translated as: 'jeebus, pat, we agree but don't say it on TV!'

[archenemy]

Note that they do not take the Lord's name in vain.

[foraker]

except when they're all huddled in their cave crying 'oh, lord, please smite our enemies'....asking god to do your killing for you. hmmmm.

[olyclimber]

Gravity gets us all in the end.

[j_b]

PI editorial, i am impressed!

 

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/237862_pated.asp

 

Thursday, August 25, 2005

 

Extreme Politics: American fatwa

 

SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER EDITORIAL BOARD

 

When they're talking in their hard-to-learn native language to devoted followers, religious extremists feel free to say some pretty horrifying things on TV in the Middle East. And the Middle West, both coasts and the rest of the United States.

 

There are varying levels of obscenity in televangelist Pat Robertson's suggestion that an elected Latin American president, Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, should be killed. Robertson's already trying to back off, claiming that his phrase "take him out" could mean a lot of things. You bet. It's sort of like the fight over the meaning of "is."

 

Come on. The meaning was clear. Robertson's "700 Club" show (although carried by ABC Family Channel) deserves a soft-core, single-X rating for trying to revive the U.S. practice of targeting foreign leaders for assassination. Consider the show a harsher double-X for the way it will suggest to some around the world that Christianity might be a religion rooted in blood lust rather than charity.

 

But mark his broadcast XXX for its explicit depiction of extremist influence in American political life. Robertson was a legitimate candidate for the Republican presidential nomination. In 1988, Washington state sent the most pro-Robertson delegation to the party's national convention in New Orleans.

 

Night after night, Robertson prattles on over national TV, promoting a bizarre view of world news. He's not the only embarrassingly extreme religious-political manipulator in the world, but he's ours.

[Dru]

Gravity sounds like the Assman