Peter_Puget Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Gerhard Schroeder's...Social Democratic Party (SPD) said yesterday it would campaign for a new "tax on the rich." The party's top executive...said its electoral manifesto would include a three-point surcharge, to be added to the top 42 per cent rate of income tax, for anyone earning more than 250,000 Euros. Franz Muentefering, the SPD chairman...made clear it was intended more as a psychological [sic] than as a fiscal step. June 27 Financial Times The surcharge is intended to "rally disaffected voters." If you think Bush is bad, what do you think about these guys who are running on a campaign based on schaudenfreude. Just another reason to "Go west, to the east young man!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Meanwhile, the German backlash against free-market capitalism is being intensified by hardball buyout methods American and Britain are using to "help" the economy over there. They aren't just disaffected, they are pissed. Vote schmote. Look what voting got us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Well, I'm sure Europe will be more than happy to NOT have you visit. Your loss... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Well, I'm sure Europe will be more than happy to NOT have you visit. Your loss... Vas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Well, I'm sure Europe will be more than happy to NOT have you visit. Your loss... It's more their loss; they depend on tourism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Puget Posted June 30, 2005 Author Share Posted June 30, 2005 Don't worry as their economy continues todescend the tourist deal will become better and better until even I will not be able to resist a return to Europe. And Josh they will be begging for our visits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 It's more their loss; they depend on tourism. And we don't? It's funny hearing republicans talk about the European economy falling apart. When you mention the structural problems with the American economy they always point to Europe and say "But there's is worse". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Predicating an argument by "If you think Bush is bad..." isn't saying he isn't, it's a passive way of admitting he's a major fuckup and a means to try to divert your attention away from that fact. Translated, for example, "Bush is a major fuckup but how about that Hitler guy,eh? Things could be a lot worse" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Even with a recent dip the Euro is looking pretty strong against our debt-ridden dollar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Blame China for the falling dollar. They are getting all our dollars but have fixed their currency at a fixed exchange rate. They have to get rid of dollars so they dump them on the Europeans. The Europeans don't want them either, but their currencies are not fixed, so the value of the dollar falls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Blame China for the falling dollar. They are getting all our dollars but have fixed their currency at a fixed exchange rate. They have to get rid of dollars so they dump them on the Europeans. The Europeans don't want them either, but their currencies are not fixed, so the value of the dollar falls. I know that you know it is more complex than this. The dollar is not falling due to China. And the sky is not falling, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Of course it is more complex than this, but China is the proverbial 800 lb gorilla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I am unfamiliar with the proverb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaps Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Eccleasties 4:1-8 Again I looked and saw all the oppression that was taking place under the sun: I saw the tears of the oppressed--and they have no comforter; power was on the side of their oppressors--and they have no comforter. And I declared that the dead, who had already died, are happier than the living, who are still alive. But better than both is he who has not yet been, who has not seen the evil that is done under the sun. And I saw that all labor and all achievement spring from man's envy of his neighbor. This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind. The fool folds his hands and ruins himself. Better one handful with tranquility than two handfuls with toil and chasing after the wind. Again I saw something meaningless under the sun: There was a man all alone; he had neither son nor brother. There was no end to his toil, yet his eyes were not content with his wealth. "For whom am I toiling," he asked, "and why am I depriving myself of enjoyment?" This too is meaningless--a miserable business! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Profound, and yet, it is thread drift. You're a thread-drifting fluff-monger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitergal Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 fluff-monger? wow...I kinda like the sounds of it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaps Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Ya? Well, I made all that up, you meth addled clownpuncher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitergal Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I know you are...but what am I?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaps Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 do you want the full dossier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Eccleasties 4:1-8 Again I looked and saw all the oppression that was taking place under the sun: I saw the tears of the oppressed--and they have no comforter; power was on the side of their oppressors--and they have no comforter. And I declared that the dead, who had already died, are happier than the living, who are still alive. But better than both is he who has not yet been, who has not seen the evil that is done under the sun. And I saw that all labor and all achievement spring from man's envy of his neighbor. This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind. The fool folds his hands and ruins himself. Better one handful with tranquility than two handfuls with toil and chasing after the wind. Again I saw something meaningless under the sun: There was a man all alone; he had neither son nor brother. There was no end to his toil, yet his eyes were not content with his wealth. "For whom am I toiling," he asked, "and why am I depriving myself of enjoyment?" This too is meaningless--a miserable business! Frickin' Five-Star Post, Chaps. I give you two snaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 Frickin' Five-Star Post, Chaps. I give you two snaps. surely it's worthy of the more coveted Zorro Snap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double_E Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 I'm sad, sad, sad,.. about the fact that haven't been to Europe for a whopping 8 years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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