MCash Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 What is that route just right of Total Soul that joins it at the fourth pitch belay? How hard? What is that route just left of Silent Running? How hard? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Just left of Silent Running is a 5 pitch route called Revolver... 5.8+, 5.8, 5.9+, 5.8, 5.10a (according to David Whitelaw's guide) Right of Total Soul (and joining after 4 pitches) is Penny Lane ... 5.7, 5.8, 5.10a, 5.10b/c (according to David Whitelaw's guide) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCash Posted June 6, 2005 Author Share Posted June 6, 2005 Thanks. I haven't seen his guidebook. Where can you get a copy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 If you go to my site, you'll find a link with David Whitelaw's email address. Darrington Rock Climbing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mneagle Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 The folks at the trading post in Darringont have a photocopy of the original and out of print Whitelaw guide. For the cost of the photocopies they will print you off a copy. It's missing a lot of the new routes but has all of the old classics. The gear rec's are a little out of date as well, telling what sized nuts and pitons to bring on every climb. "No school like the old school." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 I'm not down on that guide (quite the opposite, in fact), but I would say that those pages will do little more than get you lost at this point. "The old classics" are mostly not as they were shown, both because of inaccuracies in the original guidebook as well as because the routes have changed through subsuequent redevelopment and, in some cases, massive rockfall. Even the approach information in that old guide will quickly help you get lost. It'd be a good idea, perhaps, to set them up with some more modern information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCash Posted June 7, 2005 Author Share Posted June 7, 2005 I just checked out a PDF of Whitelaw's guidebook. Thanks Matt. Man the third pitch of Silent Running and fourth pitch of Total Soul are really great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashclimber Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 How are the bolts and anchors on it? Good shape or questionable...might be out there this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 "The old classics" are mostly not as they were shown, both because of inaccuracies in the original guidebook as well as because the routes have changed through subsuequent redevelopment...(snip) Ain't that the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 How are the bolts and anchors on it? Good shape or questionable...might be out there this weekend. Most of the bolts have been modernized. There is an occasional old bolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCash Posted June 8, 2005 Author Share Posted June 8, 2005 The 6th pitch of Silent Running has a couple of old ones, but the rest are new hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 If somebody wants to replace those bolts on Silent Running, I'd go along to help out. Maybe this Saturday, after digging post holes for the new Kiosk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szyjakowski Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Kiosk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbb Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 ben, I'm sure you can relate to having to do non-climbing things to preserve the places you like to climb in. no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szyjakowski Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 i just think kiosks suck in the woods. and yes i trundle rocks all the time of ledges and routes to preserve peoples melons...sometimes I pull knapweed or prune bushes. usually, i just go climbing. cheers- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Puget Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 The kiosk will only be manned during the summer months and then only on weekends and holidays. Personally I think the opportunity to buy a cold drink and a snack near the base will totally rock. I just hope that it is available to hide from the rain when is not staffed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szyjakowski Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 if there will be beer sold there then maybe I won't think it is a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billygoat Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Where is the kiosk going. I would guess 3 o'clock rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Puget Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 (edited) I was fully joking with my earlier response. I think the term "kiosk" is being used loosely. I believe it is closer to a small structure for a b board at the trailhead. Matt would certainly have more details. EDIT:( from the WCC site) The kiosk is going to be one of those heavy-duty wooden signboards with a picnic-shelter overhang on top. It'll house signs about low trace climbing, wilderness regulations, and an informational poster about the goat counting project being undertaken by the Sauk-Suiattle tribe. Edited June 8, 2005 by Peter_Puget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szyjakowski Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 i be joking too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 i be joking too. Oh bullshit, you'd totally buy a beer there if they were offering... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billygoat Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 no beer! what they countin' goats fer anyways?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szyjakowski Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 what beer drinking climber wouldn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Will there be a hubcap hanging on the kiosk, so as not to contradict current approach descriptions? climber 1: "The guide doesn't say anything about a bulletin board thingy. I think we should keep driving." climber 2: "What about a kiosk? Does it say anything about a kiosk?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Puget Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 I was just coming clean because I recieved several pm's asking if I knew contact info for possible summer employment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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