glassgowkiss Posted May 5, 2005 Author Share Posted May 5, 2005 Does that still rhyme in the mother tongue? Russians don't focus on rhyming: link yeah, rather they focus on revising history. the link: http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=28616 is the biggest bunch of lies i have red in a long time. yeah, stalin and soviet union was a fucking paradise and the rest of the world was bend on destruction of the paradise. big femmin didn't happen, same with pact Ribentop- Molotov. like attack on poland in 1919 and sep 17 1939 is a myth. finland is the most agressive country in europe. only 80 soviet divissions entered a sovern country and they decleared war! how dared they! in 1940 about 20 000 polish oficers, policmen, doctors, teachers from camps in Ostaszkow and Kozielsk were executed near Katyn. Each of the prisoners was shot in the back of the head with a pistol. their hands were bound behind their backs, their heads were wrapped with coats (wire was used for both hands and coats). in order to avoid screaming their mouths were filled with sand or a saw dust. and even now, almost 60 years later "progressive" russian government will not release almost 70 000 pages of documents to polish comission investigating this crime. all i can say- i am convinced now a good commie is a dead one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 yeah, rather they focus on revising history. the link: http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=28616 is the biggest bunch of lies i have red in a long time. yeah, stalin and soviet union was a fucking paradise and the rest of the world was bend on destruction of the paradise. big femmin didn't happen, same with pact Ribentop- Molotov. like attack on poland in 1919 and sep 17 1939 is a myth. finland is the most agressive country in europe. only 80 soviet divissions entered a sovern country and they decleared war! how dared they! in 1940 about 20 000 polish oficers, policmen, doctors, teachers from camps in Ostaszkow and Kozielsk were executed near Katyn. Each of the prisoners was shot in the back of the head with a pistol. their hands were bound behind their backs, their heads were wrapped with coats (wire was used for both hands and coats). in order to avoid screaming their mouths were filled with sand or a saw dust. and even now, almost 60 years later "progressive" russian government will not release almost 70 000 pages of documents to polish comission investigating this crime. all i can say- i am convinced now a good commie is a dead one. no arguments from me. but the moral relavists will tell you the US is just as bad... and there are lots of folks who still have fond memories of dear old Uncle Joe (Iosif Vissarionovich) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 Good or bad, the winners write the history books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted May 5, 2005 Author Share Posted May 5, 2005 (edited) Good or bad, the winners write the history books. that wasn't the point. the point is that soviet empire should be treated the same way as nazi germany. or fuckers like this : http://www.chomsky.info/ write history books. Edited May 5, 2005 by glassgowkiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 just as bad? no. things we need to fix? yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 just as bad? no. correct. the communists were even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted May 5, 2005 Author Share Posted May 5, 2005 just as bad? no. things we need to fix? yes. and this is what i am talking about. so where do you think the idea of concentration camps originated? there are documented facts of NKWD teaching gestapo their methods of torture. just read a couple of books by this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Suvorov then of course your lazy ass bastards won't bother reading it anyway. so to cut a long story short in painful detail this guy traces history of cooperation between 3rd reich and ussr. and these are not documents produced by americans or brits, but they are official soviet transcrips. in short the conclusion of this (and many others) work is simple: without soviets there would not be hitler. so putting up lenin's monument in a middle of a city is to people who experienced soviet terror first hand like erecting hitler's monument to jews. soviets and lenin/stalin era as bad as hitler? you bet and 10 times worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 Facism and communism as practiced in the real world both share the whole cult of personality thing. I'm sure you could get more traction if you were talking about a statue of Stalin as opposed to Lennin, but as it stands I think most people view the statue of Lennin as kitchy art. I just think it is ironic that the statue was put in place at the point where Fremont changed from a run down neighborhood for artists and hippys to a flashy trendy place to be. I recently saw a bumper sticker: Fremont Sucks Now thanks suzzie Hey KK Booga booga yabba yabba ugh.... (get it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 and this is what i am talking about. so where do you think the idea of concentration camps originated? there are documented facts of NKWD teaching gestapo their methods of torture. just read a couple of books by this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Suvorov then of course your lazy ass bastards won't bother reading it anyway. so to cut a long story short in painful detail this guy traces history of cooperation between 3rd reich and ussr. and these are not documents produced by americans or brits, but they are official soviet transcrips. in short the conclusion of this (and many others) work is simple: without soviets there would not be hitler. so putting up lenin's monument in a middle of a city is to people who experienced soviet terror first hand like erecting hitler's monument to jews. soviets and lenin/stalin era as bad as hitler? you bet and 10 times worst. Adolf Hitler admired Josef Stalin's ruthlessness, and even once commented that when he needed a governor for a conquered Soviet Union, Stalin would be his first choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted May 5, 2005 Author Share Posted May 5, 2005 (edited) if you look at the numbers lenin vs stalin, lenin was much more efficient in killing people. only this western world pinko utopia (spread by stupid fuckers like chomsky) portraits lenin as this "good guy". even more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4514217.stm the revission of the history in the past 12 months by neo-soviet officials just proves that nothing really changed . once a commie, always a commie. and soviets/russia never apologized to any of the coutries for any of the atrocities they commited. they also never apologized for killing thousands of people in hungary in 1956, in czechoslovakia in 1968. nor for killing their own citisens. Edited May 5, 2005 by glassgowkiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 if you look at the numbers lenin vs stalin, lenin was much more efficient in killing people. only this western world pinko utopia (spread by stupid fuckers like chomsky) portraits lenin as this "good guy". Word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 if you look at the numbers lenin vs stalin, lenin was much more efficient in killing people. only this western world pinko utopia (spread by stupid fuckers like chomsky) portraits lenin as this "good guy". Wladimir Ilicz i Josif Wissarinovicz z odnoho polja jahody. Prokljati czortyni syny wony oboyi. Cur jim ta djadko. Merzavci. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted May 5, 2005 Author Share Posted May 5, 2005 http://dzis.dziennik.krakow.pl/public/?Swiat/a04/a04.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 so you think there's absolutely NOTHING wrong here that couldn't be fixed? not the overwhelming influence of corporate interests on politics? not the ever-increasing intrusion of government into people's lives, etc ad nauseum? in your opinion the system as it stands now is absolutely perfect? if you think that, your feeble-mindedness knows no bounds. there is a reason for the phrase 'the price of freedom is eternal vigilance'. if you think there aren't forces (both liberal and conservative) working to erode your freedoms, you're a moron and no amount of your posturing and chest beating will convince me otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted May 5, 2005 Author Share Posted May 5, 2005 so you think there's absolutely NOTHING wrong here that couldn't be fixed? not the overwhelming influence of corporate interests on politics? not the ever-increasing intrusion of government into people's lives, etc ad nauseum? in your opinion the system as it stands now is absolutely perfect? if you think that, your feeble-mindedness knows no bounds. there is a reason for the phrase 'the price of freedom is eternal vigilance'. if you think there aren't forces (both liberal and conservative) working to erode your freedoms, you're a moron and no amount of your posturing and chest beating will convince me otherwise. all i can say: you totally ignorant fuckwad. no further comment. you are just one brainless fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 nice rejoinder. once again proving that expletives are the refuge of the feeble minded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted May 5, 2005 Author Share Posted May 5, 2005 that's all you deserve. i mean you can't carry any legit conversation so fuck off. i don't have patience for stupid and ignorant people. now before you get your panties in the wad stop and think. your little writeup has nothing to do with the whole topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 i bow to your obviously superior logic and reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 nice rejoinder. once again proving that expletives are the refuge of the feeble minded. a ty odin z Leninskikh poleznykh idiotov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted May 5, 2005 Author Share Posted May 5, 2005 (edited) foraker: at least i know some historical facts. and i don't go and change the subject out of the blue. simple. so let me explain to you in simple terms: -sheattle has a statue of a mass murderer- it's offensive to me and other people from behind iron courtain -i don't like it -this has nothing to do with other issues -there is a legit historical background why i and people like me don't like it fucking simple. also simple- you don't know history and you keep repeating annoying slogans. now really fuck off, go and read some books moron. u are a primo example why school system is a disaster ps do you read anything besides comics and cc.com as your news source asseyes Edited May 5, 2005 by glassgowkiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 so you think there's absolutely NOTHING wrong here that couldn't be fixed? not the overwhelming influence of corporate interests on politics? not the ever-increasing intrusion of government into people's lives, etc ad nauseum? in your opinion the system as it stands now is absolutely perfect? if you think that, your feeble-mindedness knows no bounds. there is a reason for the phrase 'the price of freedom is eternal vigilance'. if you think there aren't forces (both liberal and conservative) working to erode your freedoms, you're a moron and no amount of your posturing and chest beating will convince me otherwise. The problem, foraker, is that while screaming almost hysterically about the 'conservative menace' to our freedoms you are apparently willing to give a pass to leftists. Only when this logic-fault is pointed out do you grudgingly convict your side of the political spectrum. From my perspective, I can't wholly disagree that there is danger from both sides...or that one day the political pendulum will swing too far to one side. But I do consider the left side of politics more insidious...eliminating personal responsibility/shame, installing moral relevancy, defining new law via a 'living, breathing' constitution, creeping incrementalism. The right wing seems more overt....and, frankly, a lot clumsier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 once again your superior wit and reasoning rule the day. I tak ponimau ti i KK virosli v odnoi pesochnise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 Fairweather, if my comments seem more leftist than that's my fault for rising to the bait more often on issues such as the environment that mean a lot more to me than most things. more often, i'm willing to let others such as yourself argue the conservative side of other issues. i admit, i'm not hard right. in fact, i'm more libertarian than i let on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted May 5, 2005 Author Share Posted May 5, 2005 nick.licata@seattle.gov this is email address to nick licata who is responsible for pubic safety,civil rights and arts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 If it wasn't for their goofy drug beliefs and their isolationist policy, I too might consider Libertarian. I think multi-party elections are fine... as long as there is a 50% or run-off rule. Gotta keep the majority happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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