blue_morph Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Anybody like em? They always look kind of upside down, that is narrow at the bottom and wide on top. Gotta buy a pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobinc Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I have a 10 YO Highlander which is in excellent shape that I'd give you a screamin' deal on. I like the layout of the pack and have used it on several trips. Problem is, that's the "old" Osprey, as in loaded with straps and kinda heavy. But it will last forever. I assume you want something newer with lighter fabric but if not, let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_morph Posted June 29, 2004 Author Share Posted June 29, 2004 Yeah, I was looking at some of the newer lighter (important!) 1-2 day climbing packs. I also had my eye on ArcTeryx and the Wild Things Ice Sac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Yeah, I was looking at some of the newer lighter (important!) 1-2 day climbing packs. I also had my eye on ArcTeryx and the Wild Things Ice Sac. Â DFA has tried on Osprey packs with an average climbing gear load in them, and they seem to fit remarkably well. The Doctor owns an Arc'Teryx, though, and it, too, is a cush carry. Both are bomberly constructed, too. Could come down to features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Arc'teryx sucks the big . Or at least, the Khamsin 62 does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erez Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Cracked, Â Can you eleborate on your dislike of the Khamasin 62. Â Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 is a cush carry sportclimbers  pack frames are aid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Arc'teryx sucks the big . Or at least, the Khamsin 62 does. I've a Khamsin 30 that's nice, carries well, and is pretty light. Some of the other packs are a bit porky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Cracked, Can you eleborate on your dislike of the Khamasin 62.  Thanks Yes.  The frame is held in by a flap of velcro. The load lifters tend to undo the velcro, and the frame starts sliding out of it's flap.  The shoulder straps, while cushy, are too short. When properly adjusted, the unpadded part of the strap digs into my chest. Ouch.  The hipbelt, while it has the famous hip protecting squash pods, is too short to actually protect my hips. Instead, the webbing rests against my hipbones, and gets sore with big loads.  The compression straps are stupid, on one side they don't have fastex buckles, so you have to slide skis in. Very annoying, big waste of time.  For the rest, it's a nice pack, reasonably light, trim, etc, etc.  If you're wondering why I own it, I got it as a gift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I recently started using an Eclipse 42+5. The suspension is very comfortable and, despite my dislike of zippers, the pack zips open on the backpad side, which keeps the backpad relatively clean and dry. Re: the upside down look of the design : I noticed when descending while facing out, the bottom of the pack doesn't drag on stuff. I like the "straitjacket" compression system-it keeps stuff tight against my back. Also, the hydration system comes out as a separate 300ci summit pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Cracked, Can you eleborate on your dislike of the Khamasin 62.  Thanks Yes.  The frame is held in by a flap of velcro. The load lifters tend to undo the velcro, and the frame starts sliding out of it's flap.  The shoulder straps, while cushy, are too short. When properly adjusted, the unpadded part of the strap digs into my chest. Ouch.  The hipbelt, while it has the famous hip protecting squash pods, is too short to actually protect my hips. Instead, the webbing rests against my hipbones, and gets sore with big loads.  The compression straps are stupid, on one side they don't have fastex buckles, so you have to slide skis in. Very annoying, big waste of time.  For the rest, it's a nice pack, reasonably light, trim, etc, etc.  If you're wondering why I own it, I got it as a gift.  Funny, DFA has the 52 (fifty-something, anyway), and never had a problem with the load lifters/framesheet issue you describe. The rest of your problems sound like they're fit related, i.e. the pack doesn't fit you right. Maybe instead of moaning about issues like too-small shoulder straps and hip belt, you should have gotten a larger suspension? Or maybe lay off the Pringles and mayonnaise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Well, I tend to carry more than a dozen quickdraws, a down jacket, and half an apple, too. That might have something to do with it. I had around 60 pounds in it when it started hurting. Â It's size large. Losing weight will not do much about shortening my spine so the shoulder straps are long enough. Â WildThings Icesac with an after market framesheet is what I'll use when I have the cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I had a Khamsin for years, loved it, and never had any of those problems with it. Really a super pack, went out for days at a time with it, climbed, hiked, you name it. Regret having sold it. Â I have to agree with the Doctor, it sounds like the pack is too small for you. Let me know when you are ready to sell it, I might take it off your hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 If you want a climbing pack from Osprey look at the Ceres 38 or 50, or try the Aether 60. Also there are the eclipse packs that work great for everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glacier Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I compared the Khamsin and Nozone in the shop a few years back and chose the Nozone for the frame reason that Cracked pointed out - good alpine/crag pack and pretty bomber. The Khamsin frame also jabbed me in the back of the head when I did the 'look up' test. Â As far as Ospreys- I have an older Xenith (friggin huge) that I bought from Swallow's nest. I haven't had reason to carry it for a few years, but the thing is built well, and has a good suspention - especially if one is to fill its 7,000 inch space. One cool thing about Osprey - they don't advertise much, and most of their sales are through shops and word of mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_morph Posted June 30, 2004 Author Share Posted June 30, 2004 I ordered a CERES 50 for $160 or so from Northern Mountain. Hopefully its a good pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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