gotterdamerung Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 Oregon and Washington residents have both have been linked to several terrorist investigations. Madrid Oregon link Quote
JoshK Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 Oh yeah, all those damn liberals, they are the next step before terrorists! Let us remember the worst american-commited terrorist attack on american soil was one timothy mcveigh, a far right racist radical. Quote
klenke Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 Yes, it's the people on the fringes of society (your standard JoshKs and Greg_Ws ) that are the worst threat. The Moderate Klenkes can be trusted. Quote
JoshK Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 Yes, it's the people on the fringes of society (your standard JoshKs and Greg_Ws ) that are the worst threat. The Moderate Klenkes can be trusted. Quote
Lionel_Hutz Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 Good ridance, I say. The only good trial lawyer is the one who's indefinetly detained, without charge, as a 'material witness' Oh, wait a minute... I'm a trial lawyer Quote
chucK Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 It will be interesting to see whether this guy is given due process, or if he will be stripped of all constitutional rights. Lawyer, married with children, living in Coos Bay, sounds pretty middle/upper class. If this guy gets detained indefinitely without access to an outside attorney, you gotta believe noone is safe from our overreaching executive branch. When is the supreme court going to come out with their decision on this stuff anyway? Does it take months, weeks, days usually for them to return a decision? Quote
Roger Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 Let us remember the worst american-commited terrorist attack on american soil was one timothy mcveigh, a far right racist radical. hmmmm... and McVeigh and this Mayfield guy were both in the US Army... why does this obvious Army-terrorist link not surprise me? The guy is actually from Aloha - he's being held under a material witness warrant, so he hasn't been charged with anything (yet), and he has a lawyer. Quote
chucK Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 "The sources said Mayfield, 37, is being called a material witness, which means he can be held and not charged." link (CNN) your mug could be here, especially if you convert to Islam Quote
marylou Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 Yes, it's the people on the fringes of society (your standard JoshKs and Greg_Ws ) that are the worst threat. The Moderate Klenkes can be trusted. Sorry, a guy who thinks we should have English as our national language is not all that moderate. Quote
klenke Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 Still feel like you got that one on me, Marylou? Well, you can say what you want about the justice system, but if the guy's fingerprints were found on some of the bomb-making material in Spain then I think you have to arrest him on that evidence. True enough, he may be innocent and the presence of his fingerprints can be explained away, but charges are what are applied later. Don't you guys ever watch Law and Order? First Brisco and the other dude investigate and gather evidence. They take evidence to the DA or their boss (the captain lady) who then tell them to pick the suspect up based on the evidence gathered so far. Later, the suspect pleads not guilty and bail is set. Isn't that the way the justice system works? Matt? Quote
marylou Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 Still feel like you got that one on me, Marylou? Oh. Maybe not. Is that not your belief? Quote
lummox Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 your mug could be here, especially if you convert to Islam i slam. fukin a. Quote
JoshK Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 (edited) So has the whole 9/11, war on terror thing put a dent into the "convert to islam" trend? I swear it seemed like their was a popular trend for people here, esp. minorities, to convert from whatever religion they were to islam. I'm wondering if the recent bad publicity has put a clamp on this? Edited May 7, 2004 by JoshK Quote
chucK Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 Don't you guys ever watch Law and Order? First Brisco and the other dude investigate and gather evidence. They take evidence to the DA or their boss (the captain lady) who then tell them to pick the suspect up based on the evidence gathered so far. Later, the suspect pleads not guilty and bail is set. Isn't that the way the justice system works? Matt? That's the due process thing I was talking about. You know, getting to go before a judge and having them decide whether there's enough evidence to hold you in jail. Also that little bit about them having to actually charge you with something to hold you in jail. I'm all for that stuff. Quote
klenke Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 I converted to JoshKism after I saw what that god could do on skis. I mean, geewillickers, the man is out of this world! It hasn't lived up to the hype, though, and so I've been thinking of converting back to gaperism. Quote
JoshK Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 Why all the hostility? I'm serious, I am curious if anybody noticed the trend of converting to islam that took place a while back. Quote
klenke Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 Pssst, it was sarcasm, pass it on... I think possibly the conversion rate is/was about the same as usual only that the media then latched onto it, thereby making it seem like it was happening at a higher rate. The media is always implying/inducing generalities based on one or two interviews where the interviewee makes unsubstantiated claims (i.e., they talk out of their asses in front of the camera). At the same time, the media don't go out and do exhaustive studies or polls to see what is really reality. Quote
Dru Posted May 8, 2004 Posted May 8, 2004 Why all the hostility? I'm serious, I am curious if anybody noticed the trend of converting to islam that took place a while back. Dude I went through my islamic phase in Junior High Quote
JoshK Posted May 8, 2004 Posted May 8, 2004 Ha...I know. The little crying dude was my sarcasm back. Hmm...seems these little faces aren't as good at implying subtleties as we thought. Anyway, I'm off to the mosque... Quote
lummox Posted May 8, 2004 Posted May 8, 2004 I'm serious, I am curious if anybody noticed the trend of converting to islam that took place a while back. dude. i didnt even notice the trend of my s-o fukin other guys. you expect me to be omniscient and shit about religion? aint happening. Quote
Beck Posted May 8, 2004 Posted May 8, 2004 remember, not all muslims are terrorists. But, many muslims resent western inroads into their societal ways. The trend in prisons for criminals to convert to the nation of islam was once looked at as a positive step, maybe not so much so any more. I have always had doubts about the sincerity of the Farrakhan-ites. Anyone bombing trains is bad. Having an dude from oregon tied to the madrid bombings show how pervasive terrorism reaches and hits close to home here in the NW. its sad, despicable really. Let's sic Gdamung on him, show him some frontier justice. To hell with due process and all that.. Quote
Skeezix Posted May 8, 2004 Posted May 8, 2004 Oregon and Idaho are full of wierdos, but everyone in Washington is normal. That group they burned up in that house on Whidbey Island a few years back were just passin' through... Wait, I forgot about Tim Eyman. He's weird. Quote
Blake Posted May 8, 2004 Posted May 8, 2004 ...but everyone in Washington is normal. the majority of CC.COM sprayers are washingtonians. Quote
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