DPS Posted December 9, 2003 Posted December 9, 2003 Check it out. Scott'eryx is a guide now. http://nwog.org/contact.asp Quote
iain Posted December 9, 2003 Posted December 9, 2003 oi! #1 rule in web development should be don't put up a link if it takes you to "coming soon"! Quote
Alex Posted December 9, 2003 Posted December 9, 2003 more power to you scott, hope things work out! Â Alex Quote
Doctorb Posted December 9, 2003 Posted December 9, 2003 I prefer to use NWIG (Northwest Indoor Guides) Quote
Dru Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 It's so easy when you don't need to meet a certification standard! Quote
Figger_Eight Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 Dru said: It's so easy when you don't need to meet a certification standard! Â Heh heh...anyone with a computer can print up business cards saying they're a climbing guide in this country. God bless America Quote
erik Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 well i am of the thought that ALL guides should be certified...tho i hope scott and his wife the best of luck on their new endevour. it is good to see more competition in the market. Â Quote
catbirdseat Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 Who here thinks you need 45 hours of instruction to take clients top rope climbing? Quote
erik Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 what about weeks worth of classes for stitches? makes sense to me...to be a professional you need to log your time. Â Â Quote
catbirdseat Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 One thing is for sure. You have to be passionate about guiding to be willing to go through all that. It ensures that not only they are competent, but they really enjoy doing it. They aren't going to get rich by it. Quote
Figger_Eight Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 catbirdseat said: Who here thinks you need 45 hours of instruction to take clients top rope climbing? Â I do. 45 hours just for your med. certs. A paid guide ain't the same as a volunteer Mountie leader. Quote
Alex Posted December 11, 2003 Posted December 11, 2003 45 hours just for your med. certs. Â WFR at a minimum or WEMT preferrably Quote
sobo Posted December 11, 2003 Posted December 11, 2003 Alex said: 45 hours just for your med. certs.  WFR at a minimum or WEMT preferrably  And don't forget, WEMT requires OTEP, and WFR requires recert every 2 years to remain current. Nothing is for free. Quote
Tennessee Posted December 11, 2003 Posted December 11, 2003 Don't forget about all that paperwork and red tape to get a Special Use Permit on Forest Service, BLM or National Park land. $1,000,000 minimum liability insurance requirement, application fees, user fees, and complicated annual reports. Â (Unless you are going to guide on hwy roadcuts or private land) Quote
erik Posted December 11, 2003 Posted December 11, 2003 Tennessee said: Don't forget about all that paperwork and red tape to get a Special Use Permit on Forest Service, BLM or National Park land. $1,000,000 minimum liability insurance requirement, application fees, user fees, and complicated annual reports. Â (Unless you are going to guide on hwy roadcuts or private land) Â yeah i totally agree!! too bad we cannot remove all guide services from our public land!! Â Â Quote
catbirdseat Posted December 11, 2003 Posted December 11, 2003 Figger_Eight said: catbirdseat said: Who here thinks you need 45 hours of instruction to take clients top rope climbing? Â I do. 45 hours just for your med. certs. A paid guide ain't the same as a volunteer Mountie leader. It's safe to assume you have been though the training. So how was it? Was it interesting and did you get a lot out of it? Quote
Bronco Posted July 28, 2004 Posted July 28, 2004 Scott's getting some clients and recognition from the local media.  from www.heraldnet.com Published: Saturday, July 24, 2004 Basic Rock Outdoors, on the real thing with no marked steps or handholds - you can climb to the top with the class  By Victor Balta Herald Writer   A NACORTES - Where do you go next?  Your leg shakes as you feel your foothold slipping.  The next step looks impossible.  The trees rustle behind you and a bird's shadow glides across the rock in front of your face.  An ant crawls by. You blow it off.  Don't you have better things to think about? Like making it to the top?  You give in, take that step, and you've made it.  Five feet up, 25 to go.  That's "Rock Climbing 101" at Mount Erie Park in Anacortes, where Scott Harder takes his students from Cascade Guiding Services for an introduction to the outdoor sport.  It's where man and woman square off against rock. There are no color-coded routes and no pads to break your fall. But more importantly, you'll find fresh air and breathtaking views of Deception Pass and Puget Sound.  "A lot of people choose to climb here because it's in a rain shadow," said Harder, who started the Snohomish-based Cascade Guiding Services in March. "You're always wary about rain out here."  Harder worked many years for Everett's Cascade Crags, an indoor rock-climbing gym and retail store for outdoor sports equipment. Last year he left to start his own outdoor climbing venture. He also offers more advanced rock climbing classes, private lessons and guided backpacking tours.  Since Cascade Crags doesn't have outdoor classes, Harder does it for the store's members at a discount price and gets many referrals from there.  For about $75, a newcomer can step into a harness and climbing shoes (included) and get started.  After six months of indoor experience, G.C. Canagaratna, 30, of Everett, stared up a sheer rock face at Mount Erie before his first outdoor climb on a recent Sunday.  "I'd like to do it a lot more, but I'll start with the basic," Canagaratna said. "It should be a good challenge. With indoor (climbing), you can see where all the holes are."  Harder and his teaching partner, 24-year-old Hunter Brown, take their time explaining the basics - everything from tying your harness onto a rope to demonstrating the technique of securing a position on the rock before moving upward.  As Brown likes to say, the rope is like a god.  It literally holds your life in the balance. But when ropes are used properly, rock climbing is a controlled and safe activity.  "After this class, you should be able to go into any gym and climb," Brown said. "And, if you like it, you can come back and we can show you how to set up ropes and everything else."  This day, though, the five-member group was happy to learn the basics. In addition to climbing, the class included an introduction to belaying, or controlling the other end of the rope to keep the climber from falling. There was also an intro to rappelling, which involves using the rope to descend the rock face (like they do in those Army commercials).  Michelle Perez, 32, of Sammamish, was satisfied to make her way up and down.  "I was a little skeptical at first," she said. "But Scott was pretty good at troubleshooting and telling me where to put my feet."  Everyone in the group agreed that the camaraderie was part of the fun. But it's easy to build camaraderie with a complete stranger when he's holding the other end of your rope.  "The company here was great," said Tom Astrof, 39, of Mill Creek, who later invited the bunch to join some friends for dinner. "It's a great way to spend an afternoon if you're into fitness."  As for Canagaratna, he was ready for more before the harness even came off.  "What's next?" he asked rhetorically.  "Whatever the next climbing class is."  Quote
catbirdseat Posted July 29, 2004 Posted July 29, 2004 All hail Bronco, the Great Thread Resurrector! Quote
Lambone Posted July 29, 2004 Posted July 29, 2004 there should be a law agains newbies guiding newbies...but I hope he makes a descent living at it...I'm kinda jealous... Quote
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